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March 4, 2013 at 7:50 pm #177034RumplesGirlKeymaster
@Demileto wrote:
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So maybe it comes down to: who does Snow save by killing Cora with the candle? Two best choices: Charming and Rumple who is in big trouble after Hook hurt him.
As I said above, my bet’s on Rumple. The whole present-day plot of next week’s episode has Rumple facing his worst moment since becoming the Dark One: not only he’s extremely ill, but he’s also being cornered by the dagger-holding duo Cora and Regina. Death will be very much a reality to him, so much that I’m sure this’ll be what motivates the so-called poigonant moment between Rumple and Belle: he’ll want to hear her voice one last time before his imminent demise. With such a grim fate on the horizon, I can’t see the episode ending with a completely unscathed Rumple; at the very least he’ll lose his Dark One status.
I think Rumple is the best choice and in the end, Snow saves him but can’t save his power thus rendering him fully human for the first time since before the curse. How will Rumple deal with that? That should be a good story.
And if you’re right about Rumple and Belle: I will never stop crying.[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 4, 2013 at 10:02 pm #177075kfchimeraParticipantHm…someone suggested that Cora would stab Rumple, become the new Dark One, but what would happen if Snow used the candle on Cora when she is the Dark One? Would she be the 4th new Dark One (Zoso, Rump, Cora…)? I still don’t see Cora doing that, because she only needs to control Rump. So if the person controlling the Dark One is Killed, I don’t think the killer automatically gets control….
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
March 4, 2013 at 10:23 pm #177084DemiletoParticipant@KFChimera wrote:
Hm…someone suggested that Cora would stab Rumple, become the new Dark One, but what would happen if Snow used the candle on Cora when she is the Dark One? Would she be the 4th new Dark One (Zoso, Rump, Cora…)? I still don’t see Cora doing that, because she only needs to control Rump. So if the person controlling the Dark One is Killed, I don’t think the killer automatically gets control….
This is best answered from an excerpt of the original post of the “Spoilers from Paleyfest on this episode!” thread on this forum:
The next scene is Regina and Cora. Regina comments that their plan will not work now because the Charmings know they have the dagger and Henry would be able to trace the blame to them. They are tapping the phone listening to a conversation between Emma and Snow and discover Rumple is injured. (There is a very funny moment when Cora knocks the device off the desk and says “I don’t like what the enchanted box is saying!”) They look at the dagger and realize he is more than just injured, he is dying. His name is disappearing from the dagger. Cora says they must change their plans…she is going to stab Rumple and become the dark one. If Rumple dies on his own, the dark magic just desolves. Regina questions her mom’s motives.
March 4, 2013 at 11:45 pm #177142MatthewPaulModeratorWell, neither Archie or Granny are listed in episode cast according to the press release for this episode, so I think we can rule them out.
March 5, 2013 at 12:55 am #177165kfchimeraParticipant@Demileto wrote:
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This is best answered from an excerpt of the original post of the “Spoilers from Paleyfest on this episode!” thread on this forum:The next scene is Regina and Cora. Regina comments that their plan will not work now because the Charmings know they have the dagger and Henry would be able to trace the blame to them. They are tapping the phone listening to a conversation between Emma and Snow and discover Rumple is injured. (There is a very funny moment when Cora knocks the device off the desk and says “I don’t like what the enchanted box is saying!”) They look at the dagger and realize he is more than just injured, he is dying. His name is disappearing from the dagger. Cora says they must change their plans…she is going to stab Rumple and become the dark one. If Rumple dies on his own, the dark magic just desolves. Regina questions her mom’s motives.
Ok,so even though originally I thought it was an unlikely scenario….it seems Cora will try to become the Dark One directly….and if she did, what would happen if Snow killed her via candle after that point? Would the Dark One curse simply end, or would Snow become the Dark One…? I mean, they hinted at “Dark Snow”…now that would be a twist.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
March 5, 2013 at 1:33 am #177174RumplesGirlKeymaster@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Well, neither Archie or Granny are listed in episode cast according to the press release for this episode, so I think we can rule them out.
Good point. Also, does anyone know where Ruby is???
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 5, 2013 at 1:48 am #177189kranenParticipantSo here’s the cast from the press release. I have gone through and marked out the only ones that we haven’t seen filming since this episode (Not including the ‘Welcome to Storybrooke’ flashback). And we know it’s a major character so I’m not including the pretty much cameo cast. Needless to say, there isn’t a lot of options….
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are Barbara Hershey as Cora, Michael Raymond-James as Neal Cassidy, Rose McGowan as younger Cora, Gerry Rousseau as father, Joaquim de Almeida as King Xavier, Eva Allan as Princess Eva, Zak Santiago as Prince Henry and Sonequa Martin-Green as Tamara.
And the promo said ‘One of their own’…. I have a really bad feeling about Ruby.
March 5, 2013 at 1:51 am #177190RumplesGirlKeymasterI just don’t get why we haven’t seen Ruby at least in passing. And she wasn’t at Paley. And her tweets all day have been retweeting fans saying they miss her. I am probably reading WAY too much into this.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 5, 2013 at 1:53 am #177191sarah_tnParticipantRuby!!! It would make sense. She’s barely been on screen for quite a while now and when she has been, it hasn’t been for any dominate purpose. I hope it’s not Ruby, just because I know what it would do to poor Granny!!! 😥
Granny’s not mentioned in there either though, so it might not be either of them. If it’s one of their own….I don’t even want to mention it, and I’m not talking about Hook (even though I really hope it’s not him either).
March 5, 2013 at 1:58 am #177194SlurpeezParticipant@Kranen wrote:
So here’s the cast from the press release. I have gone through and marked out the only ones that we haven’t seen filming since this episode (Not including the ‘Welcome to Storybrooke’ flashback). And we know it’s a major character so I’m not including the pretty much cameo cast. Needless to say, there isn’t a lot of options….
“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Meghan Ory as Red Riding Hood/Ruby, and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.
Guest starring are Barbara Hershey as Cora, Michael Raymond-James as Neal Cassidy, Rose McGowan as younger Cora, Gerry Rousseau as father, Joaquim de Almeida as King Xavier, Eva Allan as Princess Eva, Zak Santiago as Prince Henry and Sonequa Martin-Green as Tamara.
And the promo said ‘One of their own’…. I have a really bad feeling about Ruby.
Noooooo! Not Ruby! That would seriously break my heart. Let them have the cricket for all I care, but I must have Ruby! 😥
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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