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April 8, 2014 at 3:41 pm #260242GrimmsisterParticipant
yep I too think it is Rumple that is Z’s father.
[adrotate group="5"]April 8, 2014 at 3:44 pm #260243RumplesGirlKeymasterRumple has been proven NOT to be Zelena’s father because she had to use HIS blood to get past the blood magic seal on his safe in the shop whereas she used her own blood to get past Regina’s blood magic.
Yup.
and add in the kissing pic in 318 and unless this show is going toward incest, he is not her father
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 8, 2014 at 4:02 pm #260245spinninggoldParticipantRumple has been proven NOT to be Zelena’s father because she had to use HIS blood to get past the blood magic seal on his safe in the shop whereas she used her own blood to get past Regina’s blood magic.
Zelena doesn’t know he’s her real daddy. So she would think she needs his blood, yes. Even if she did not.
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And that kiss. It is just a paralel to Cora who sealed their deals with a kiss. .. Besides a certain someone is wheeling a knife to control him… A kiss is not incest. I too kiss my dad… though not like that…But they already said this wasn’t your standard Disney and they were gonna push the bounderies. So to me that kiss means nothing
April 8, 2014 at 4:24 pm #260248PriceofMagicParticipantAs you said, you don’t kiss your dad like that. There’s pushing boundaries and then there’s diving into incest.
Rumple is NOT Zelena’s dad.
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Keeper of FelixApril 8, 2014 at 4:27 pm #260250RumplesGirlKeymasterZelena doesn’t know he’s her real daddy. So she would think she needs his blood, yes. Even if she did not.
Well there’s a possibility that she might. The magic floor could show her the past, meaning she could find out who her father is before she ever cast her curse or anything.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 8, 2014 at 4:34 pm #260253sherazadeParticipantGah double post ( blame it on me trying to post from my ipad – this is harder than it looks). Just ignore this bit.
April 8, 2014 at 4:38 pm #260256sherazadeParticipantIm finding the whole blood-magic thing rather unclear. Have we ever seen it being broken based on family relations? Zelena had to steal Regina’s blood to get into the secret-tunnel crypt, but the rest of the castle could have had very different protections (that Zelena broke earlier in order to get inside).
edit: right, Regina’s office. Perhaps Zelena had some monkey-stolen Regina blood left? I’m just confused why she had it stolen in the first place if she could get past those locks based on her own blood.
April 8, 2014 at 5:23 pm #260262spinninggoldParticipant*goes for crucifiction by POM and RG*
Point 5 and 6 the Zelena / Rumpel relationship as it is now is very like the subservant ( or you could just say servant) relationship Regina had with her dad. Okay Zelena needs a dagger to do so, but the way Rumpel stands beside her with this defeated look in his eyes looks just like Henry Sr. And (6) to cast the curse Zelena would have needed to kill her daddy, just like Regina had to so she could cast her curse.
Like it or not, the paralels are there.
And a little thing: Zelena’s green pendant resembles Rumpel red necktie pin
April 8, 2014 at 5:43 pm #260266RumplesGirlKeymasterAnd (6) to cast the curse Zelena would have needed to kill her daddy, just like Regina had to so she could cast her curse.
Not necessarily. She needs to sacrifice the heart of the thing she loves most–that’s why Rumple wouldn’t let her cast it in the first place.
Like it or not, the paralels are there. And a little thing: Zelena’s green pendant resembles Rumpel red necktie pin
Oh of course the parallels are there. I’ve never denied that. But I also think it would be 1) way to twisted given the 318 kiss and 2)a MAJOR retcon of the Miller’s Daughter “no child of mine will ever be yours”
It’s a GREEN (heh) herring.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 8, 2014 at 5:50 pm #260270PriceofMagicParticipantRumple is NOT Zelena’s dad.
Regina NEVER kissed her dad like Zelena kisses Rumple in 318 Zelena treats Rumple as a pet, an attack dog, that she can set on people who get in her way. Henry senior may have been Regina’s personal servant but she still engaged in a father/daughter relationship with him, seeking his advice when troubled. Rumple was the first man in Zelena’s life who showed anything resembling kindness to her, so of course she’s going to have a crush on him and want to play wife to him.
Zelena has to use the dagger to keep Rumple in line, because not only would he kill her if given the chance, he would also leave her. Zelena is like a psycho girlfriend for Rumple, she is forcing him to stay with her. Henry senior did all of Regina’s bidding of his own free will. He might not agree with everything Regina did, but he still stood by her, she didn’t force him.
Regina had to kill her father because he was the thing she loved most. Rumple didn’t let Zelena cast the curse because he was the thing she loved most. Rumple gave Zelena validation on how great she was with the magic, hence why she was so pissed off at Rumple choosing Regina for the curse. Despite having a perfectly reasonable excuse for why Zelena couldn’t cast the curse, Zelena saw it as Rumple was no longer validating her.
The writers aren’t going to go diving into an incest relationship on the show for the reason that, not only is this a family show, it’s in extremely bad taste.
Also Rumple did not know of Zelena’s existence. He didn’t believe her when she said she was Cora’s daughter, he had to do the magical DNA test. As far as Rumple knew Regina was Cora’s only child. And since Regina was so important to the curse, Rumple would’ve kept a close eye on Cora and Regina. Cora’s deal with Rumple was for HIS child and Cora got out of the deal because ANY child she had wouldn’t be Rumple’s.
Cora and Rumple met the night before she got engaged to Henry Sr. She’d got rid of Zelena before that night or maybe shortly after her engagement to Henry so Zelena couldn’t mess things up.
Either way, Zelena was born BEFORE Rumple ever met Cora.
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