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ugh. We really need to nail down how time is working.
I agree that timing thing just doesn’t add up. 🙄
What if he was some where else 1st before coming to England âť“ Because his timing going to NL was the same time Hook was returning.
[adrotate group="5"]I’ve posted in another thread about how I think the timeline works, but I’ll share it here, too. According to E&A, time is linear and works differently in different lands. We know Neverland is a Land WIthout Time, since no one ages. Also, we know that time runs in a parallel way between SB and the EF since that was shown throughout the first part of S2. Yet, in order for the timeline to make sense, we know Bae had to travel forward in time.
We know for a fact that Baelfire crossed the barriers of time and space when he came through the bean portal to 19th-century London.
In “The Return,” Rumple said, “I just want you to know, that ever since you left, ever since you crossed the barriers of time and space, in every waking moment… I’ve been looking for you.”
Since time is linear and appears to be parallel in both SB and in the EF, well then, Baelfire still could have jumped forward in time by about 100 years. And that’s really the only way to explain the timeline in my opinion. Bae then went to Neverland, where there is no time, and therefore didn’t age for another 100 or so years until he returned to Earth circa 1991, where he began to age again.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Well. Peter’s shadow did have a habit of getting away from him and was far mor mischievous that Peter seemed to be.
I think Bae arrives in NL after Hook has left Rumple and Mila has died. Time moves differently in NL. Look at the original text. Whenever Wendy returned to Never Land to Spring clean for Peter, yes, Spring clean, she was always older he stayed the same age and sometimes Peter wouldn’t return for years because he had forgotten to return for Wendy. Then the last time he did Wendy was too old so took her daughter instead. Never Land makes you forget also. At least it does in the original text. Wonder if that will play into season 3??
I honestly thought that Rumple had something to do or was the shadow…
Just to throw this out there, but A&E said Henry is the “product of both light and dark magic”. Well far as we know, while Rumpel is the Dark One, it isn’t exactly a hereditary position….so what does that mean as Bae doesn’t have dark magic in him or does he?
Were they just referring to the dark curse having brought Emma and Neal together?
Or could they have been letting something slip about dark magic being in Neal, maybe it is possible that the Shadow is connected to Neal somehow.“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I think it’s as simple as multiple timelines existing at the same time.
Whichever world you’re going to, determines at what point in time you arrive.
I don’t thnink Bae was ‘falling’ for 150 years.
He went through the vortex and immediately landed in 1900’s London.@KFChimera wrote:
Just to throw this out there, but A&E said Henry is the “product of both light and dark magic”. Well far as we know, while Rumpel is the Dark One, it isn’t exactly a hereditary position….so what does that mean as Bae doesn’t have dark magic in him or does he?
Were they just referring to the dark curse having brought Emma and Neal together?
Or could they have been letting something slip about dark magic being in Neal, maybe it is possible that the Shadow is connected to Neal somehow.I forgot about them saying that about Henry.
If the Shadow is looking for a “host” (for lack of a better term) and Bae fits all the criteria for the Shadow, then maybe after Hook left NL to seek revenge on Rumple, Bae was left defenseless and the Shadow took the opportunity to attach itself to Bae. And so it was the Shadow who chose to leave NL, not Bae. The Shadow wanted out for some reason so it forced Bae to leave. And now it lies dormant waiting for..something. A new host?"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@KFChimera wrote:
Just to throw this out there, but A&E said Henry is the “product of both light and dark magic”. Well far as we know, while Rumpel is the Dark One, it isn’t exactly a hereditary position….so what does that mean as Bae doesn’t have dark magic in him or does he?
I don’t think A&E were speaking purely about heredity. I believe A&E were talking about Henry being the product of both nature and nuture. They meant that Henry was born from Emma, who has light (good) magic in her, but Henry was raised by Regina, who has dark (bad) magic inside of her. I don’t think Rumple being Henry’s biological grandfather would be matter to Henry’s genetic makeup, since Baelfire was born 14 years before his father became the Dark One.
Were they just referring to the dark curse having brought Emma and Neal together?
Or could they have been letting something slip about dark magic being in Neal, maybe it is possible that the Shadow is connected to Neal somehow.I don’t think Neal is at all magical, unless the Shadow is in someway haunting Bae or he eventually became Peter Pan.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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The Blue Fairy also made a comment about dark magic in Bae when she 1st met him
I think you are referring to this
Blue Fairy: Because there is good magic and dark magic, and I’m on the right side.
Baelfire: You’re a fairy.
Blue Fairy: Oh. And you’re not untouched by magic, are you, child? There’s something dark in your life.
Baelfire: My father. He is the Dark One.
Bae thinks she means the Dark One, Rumple. But I suppose it could be read a different way.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@Gypsy wrote:
I think it’s as simple as multiple timelines existing at the same time.
Whichever world you’re going to, determines at what point in time you arrive.
I don’t thnink Bae was ‘falling’ for 150 years.
He went through the vortex and immediately landed in 1900’s London.Yes, that’s what I believe as well. The bean simply created an opening in the fabric of space-time, which happened to be 19th-century London.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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