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April 28, 2014 at 8:38 am #264516RumplesGirlKeymaster
First off, let me say I’m happy it was Regina. It was a nice parallel (in reverse) to S1 Emma breaking the curse, so I’m not complaining about that. I’m wondering about this from a “what we’ve been told/shown before” perspective.
In Season 1 we learned that Emma is the Savior because Rumple took a strand of her parents hair and created true love potion, then put a drop on the Scroll of the Dark Curse. Thus, Emma was the Savior as well as being True Love Incarnate.
So what about Regina? She’s not born of True Love between Cora and Henry Sr. And our gang of heroes were trying to perform the curse away from the eyes of Zelena meaning Zelena didn’t intend for there to be a savior and we never saw Snowing and Regina do anything to make sure it was Regina. And last time we saw the Dark One scroll, Regina tore it up in order to cast the counter curse to Pan’s spell. So there was no way to put “Regina as Savior” on to the scroll because it had already been destroyed. So how did they ensure that it would be Regina who would break the curse with TLK with Henry?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 28, 2014 at 8:52 am #264523PheeParticipantI’ve always figured it would be a Regina/Henry kiss that broke this Curse, so that didn’t surprise me. But the whole time I’d been thinking that, I’d been thinking that Zelena had cast the Curse, so blood magic whatever and that’s why Regina. But that doesn’t hold water any more.
It could just be that it had to be someone who was cursed had to kiss someone who WASN’T cursed, and that connection would break it. That would fit for Regina and Henry.
April 28, 2014 at 8:58 am #264527RumplesGirlKeymasterIt could just be that it had to be someone who was cursed had to kiss someone who WASN’T cursed, and that connection would break it. That would fit for Regina and Henry.
True but wouldn’t that fit for Emma/Henry as well?
I know Henry hadn’t believed yet when Emma kisses him but Zelena didn’t anticipate there being a Henry/Emma problem in the first place. She thought they’d stay in NYC with Monkey. There just seems to be some sort of missing piece here. Snowing and Regina know HOW Emma was made the savior, but in order to make a savior, they are missing quite a few parts. No scroll, no true love potion. So while I really do understand (and like!) the poetry of it all, it does feel a bit sloppy because in the past, making someone the breaker of the Curse was a meticulously planned.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 28, 2014 at 9:21 am #264537cassiaParticipantI was under the impression that they cast the exact same curse Rumple created. This curse already included a saviour, Rumple made sure of that.
Maybe with Henry being Snowings grandson and also a product of the True Love Rumple used to create the curse, it never mattered who Henry was kissed by
April 28, 2014 at 9:29 am #264542RumplesGirlKeymasterI was under the impression that they cast the exact same curse Rumple created. This curse already included a saviour, Rumple made sure of that.
They did cast the same curse but that curse–that included a savior–was specifically Emma. Emma was the Savior because Rumple put her parents true love on the scroll.
Maybe with Henry being Snowings grandson and also a product of the True Love Rumple used to create the curse, it never mattered who Henry was kissed by
Maybe. But Emma was kissing Henry too and nothing happened. It seems specifically tied to Regina.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 28, 2014 at 9:38 am #264548PanTheManParticipantI think it could have just as easily been Emma if Zelena hadn’t teleported Henry away. With Henry having the Heart of the Truest Believer, maybe all it took to break the curse was someone giving him a TLK.
Regina just got their first this time.
April 28, 2014 at 11:06 am #264595WickedRegalParticipantThe reason Regina was the curse breaker was because the Curse still recognizes her as the ORIGINAL Curse Caster. And she had the will to break the curse or not the first time, and I think being the original caster still granted her some right in the curse.
As for Emma…I think she still could have been available to break the curse as well due to her being the ORIGINAL Savior…so Regina or Emma could have broken the curse, but in order for us to come full circle, Regina was required to break this curse. Also due to the fact that this is really between the #WickedSisters in the end.
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April 28, 2014 at 11:30 am #264603KebParticipantI think it helped that while Snow enacted the curse, Regina had to do all the magic bits. So her DNA is all up in the curse too. Also, Henry is the son of the savior. I think his true love for both his moms is as powerful as Emma’s true love for her son.
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April 28, 2014 at 12:28 pm #264620SlurpeezParticipantRegina kissing Henry to break this dark curse was lovely, but it didn’t make sense to me why it worked. In S1, Emma broke the curse because (1) Rumple had made her the savior when he added a “safety valve” to the dark curse and (2) Emma believed in her own ability to save everyone. Rumple said it had to be Emma, because she was the product of the true love which had been added to the curse. It couldn’t be Regina the first time around.
With this re-created dark curse, which was just a rehash of the first one, Emma still should have been the savior, since the drop of true love potion had originally come from her parents. In fact, it was Emma’s parents who cast this particular curse this time. So why was Regina suddenly the savior this time around? As far as we know, Regina didn’t add a safety valve to make herself the savior. So why now? What was it about this particular casting of the curse that made her break it? I know that Regina has true love for Henry, but that love should have been added to the parchment on which the curse was written as a safety valve, thereby ensuring Regina could break it.
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April 28, 2014 at 12:39 pm #264626KebParticipantWell. All Regina broke was the memory part, I -think-. They’re still in Storybrooke, after all (though to be fair they were last time, too).
Secondly, Regina was the first person to give Henry a TLK after he believed.
It may have more to do in this particular case with Henry than with which mother kissed him.
However, it occurs to me that since they used Charming’s heart to cast the curse, their TL is still all over it.
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