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March 7, 2013 at 3:22 am #177789daybreak_fairyParticipant
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀 I’m confuse about something. Could Cora have really being able to manipulate Rumple? I mean, by then he should have known that true love’s kiss could have broken his dark one’s curse & he obviously is not affected by the smooching… So maybe he’s just manipulating her by making her think that she is manipulating him? Or could he have actually cared for her? or maybe he was just enjoying the rare time of having real company (someone that isn’t afraid &/or is trying to kill him)?
[adrotate group="5"]March 7, 2013 at 3:24 am #177791RumplesGirlKeymaster“You would know if she was, cause most of you would be dead by now.” Oh, how I love Jane Espenson’s writing.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 7, 2013 at 3:25 am #177792RumplesGirlKeymaster@daybreak_fairy wrote:
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀 I’m confuse about something. Could Cora have really being able to manipulate Rumple? I mean, by then he should have known that true love’s kiss could have broken his dark one’s curse & he obviously is not affected by the smooching… So maybe he’s just manipulating her by making her think that she is manipulating him? Or could he have actually cared for her? or maybe he was just enjoying the rare time of having real company (someone that isn’t afraid &/or is trying to kill him)?
I think he cares for her. Listen to when he says “I can only give you darkness.” There is real longing there. But I think she’s going to turn on him and say she never cared for him, was only using him so that she could become Queen.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 7, 2013 at 3:39 am #177795daybreak_fairyParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@daybreak_fairy wrote:
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀 I’m confuse about something. Could Cora have really being able to manipulate Rumple? I mean, by then he should have known that true love’s kiss could have broken his dark one’s curse & he obviously is not affected by the smooching… So maybe he’s just manipulating her by making her think that she is manipulating him? Or could he have actually cared for her? or maybe he was just enjoying the rare time of having real company (someone that isn’t afraid &/or is trying to kill him)?
I think he cares for her. Listen to when he says “I can only give you darkness.” There is real longing there. But I think she’s going to turn on him and say she never cared for him, was only using him so that she could become Queen.
Yes, he really sounds like he cares. But I just can’t believe that he didn’t know (or at least suspected) that Cora didn’t truly love him. What I LOVE about the Rumple-dark one is how he is so smart & how he’s always “controlling the pieces in the game”.
March 7, 2013 at 3:42 am #177796theeviloneParticipantYou know… it’s not that bad. I mean I always thought Rumple had it in him to be a lady’s man 😉 He has lived for 300 years he was bound to have some bumps along the way before Belle, I mean jeez he is not priest, monk, pope whatever… It looks to me it looks like he wants to marry her off. I was wondering this, Cora loves power she wants it more than anything why wouldn’t she want to be with Rumple, he is the freakin’ Dark One. You cannot have more power than that. He makes Kings into fools. Seeing as he mentions the Irony of Snow White, I believe he might even see a glimpse of what happens with Cora.
March 7, 2013 at 3:45 am #177798RumplesGirlKeymaster@TheEvilOne wrote:
You know… it’s not that bad. I mean I always thought Rumple had it in him to be a lady’s man 😉 He has lived for 300 years he was bound to have some bumps along the way before Belle, I mean jeez he is not priest, monk, pope whatever… It looks to me it looks like he wants to marry her off. I was wondering this, Cora loves power she wants it more than anything why wouldn’t she want to be with Rumple, he is the freakin’ Dark One. You cannot have more power than that. He makes Kings into fools. Seeing as he mentions the Irony of Snow White, I believe he might even see a glimpse of what happens with Cora.
I wondered that too and the conclusion I came to is that being with the Dark One, she would always be second best. He would always be more powerful than her. And not only does Cora want power, she wants to be powerful. She wants to be the top dog. And I think being Queen, especially if it’s Henry Sr as King, she can easily control him and really be the most powerful. But with Rumple, she would always be less than him, and she won’t go back to that life.
And to your other point: yes, he was probably a ladies man because the power gave him courage. It’s just hard to watch. And Belle is his true love, which is what I’m reminding myself of right now. *you might have guessed that I freaked out a little bit* 😉
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 7, 2013 at 3:51 am #177801king arthurParticipantGoing out on a limb here, but…I think it’s Rumple playing Cora.
In the peak with Cora and Rumple, he is in his over-the-top bravado mode. Very similar to when Rumple was setting up Regina with help from Dr. Frankenstein and Mad Hatter.
Yes, he tells her he could only give her darkness, but I suspect he is only manipulating Cora into still marrying Prince Henry even if she doesn’t truly love him.
In contrast, back in Skin Deep, Rumple’s interactions with Belle as they were getting to know each other were more genuine and tender, until he became convinced it was a trick…as he had once tricked Cora.
Why would he want Cora to marry Prince Henry without love? Because he needed Regina. Maybe he figured Cora would be more likely to part with her daughter if she was not the product of true love.
March 7, 2013 at 3:52 am #177802obisgirlParticipantThis was me after seeing the Cora/Rumpel kiss:
If that Princess Eva is Snow’s mom as a teenager, wow 😮 no wonder why she was preaching to little Snow to be kind and good to the servants.
March 7, 2013 at 3:53 am #177803RumplesGirlKeymasterYeah. Eva was a brat! I wonder what happened to Eva that made her change.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 7, 2013 at 3:55 am #177805obisgirlParticipantmaybe Cora reveals to her that she knew dark magic and used it on her.
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