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@Mich7 wrote:
ETA: and to have a name for a title makes it sound like this episode will revolve around this person (assuming it is a name and not something else entirely)…which makes me think this may be someone completely new (perhaps just my thinking)…maybe those saying this is Greg’s Her are correct and we’ll be introduced to her in this episode like we were introduced to Dreamy(Grumpy) in Dreamy (that is the only other name title isn’t it?…can’t remember).
Yes, I know that Dr. Whale technically has had two episodes this; although I think “The Doctor” was actually a Regina-centric episode, I’m just not sold on Belle having two episodes this season since she only got her first one after the winter break.
There’s just so many questions, imo, that they’ve said that they would get to before the end of the season like who HER is, and I have a feeling that Greg and HER might be at least one set of villains to watch out for next season that I think this might be about something or someone other than Belle.
I do love the theories about Belle being Lacey, but they really haven’t focused that much on just Belle this year, that I’m not sure they’ll actually give her two centric-episodes, especially one so close to the finale.
Lacey Gold doesn’t work for me. I think Gold is going to be involved heavily in the next few episodes…I just don’t see them devoting a whole episode to him that quickly after Manhattan especially if it winds up being his backstory.
Yes, I don’t think it will be about Gold either. I’m predicting if his name isn’t Adam like Disney’s Beast was, then it will be something like he didn’t actually have a first name like how Charming’s name looks like it was David all along.
Lacey Gold doesn’t work for me. I think Gold is going to be involved heavily in the next few episodes…I just don’t see them devoting a whole episode to him that quickly after Manhattan especially if it winds up being his backstory.
That’s all I can think of too. 😆
[adrotate group="5"]@Mich7 wrote:
Makes me wonder how the Owen/Ben father comforting son over loss of his mother fits into all this (it is this episode isn’t it?)..I mean they do like to do parallels.
New theory about Owen/Ben. Owen could be a young Greg. Benjamin Stockham looks enough like Ethan Embry with the blue eyes that it can work, and since we’re going back to 1983, it’s definitely plausible that Greg was 10 years old at that time since I don’t think this show takes place exactly in 2013 but a little bit before that I believe. Plus, Embry will be 36 this year even if he looks younger, so he’s in the right age range for someone who would be in their late 30s to early 40s on the show.
I don’t know how his father will fit in, but I think that when Storybrooke appeared, Greg and/or his father lived nearby, and either both of them or just one of them realized that something was going on. Then, I think that Henry’s book came out of the discovery of Storybrooke, which would fit The Golden Key’s theory that Greg is the author of Henry’s book. (Although in my theory it could either be Greg or his dad that is responsible, or maybe they even co-wrote it.)
While I’m not sure about all of The Golden Key’s reasons of why Greg is the author of Henry’s book, I do think that since they’re suppose to answer the question on who the author is this season and how it got to Storybrooke, that it makes the most sense out of all the characters that are on OUaT now and have been featured or are going to be featured in the latter half of the season, that Greg makes the most sense. While it could still be the Blue Fairy, assuming that it’s not a totally new character, since she’s been on sporadically this season, if the author of Henry’s book and how it got to him are suppose to be big reveals, I can’t see it being her. Of course, it might turn out not to be a big deal.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Gotta be an August story!! Gotta be what’s INSIDE THE FREAKING BOX. If the box is not featured in this episode, and its contents….. *explosion*
Ok. Theory for this episode: We learn where August has been for this whole season. We also learn of his connection/deal with the BF. At the BF’s instructions August broke up Neal and Emma by showing Neal the picture of Rumple’s dagger in his box. Later, he collected baby Henry and brought him to the BF who then gave him to Rumple who gave him to Regina, but only AFTER the BF had put the idea of having a child into Regina’s mind. I think in order for August to repent for his actions with Neal and Emma AND because he broke his promise to Emma when she was a baby, he will probably die in this episode. But hopefully after he has reunitd with Gepetto.
Yes, I would put money that either August or Gepetto is a goner this episode to write them out of the show. I’m not sure what happened exactly whether there were any truth to the rumors that Eion Bailey was difficult to work with, which seems unlikely given that there’s been no rumors about his behavior from other projects he’s worked on, or whether the writers just didn’t know what to do with him because there were already too many characters to work with this season, but it’s a shame that they couldn’t have wrote his character better this season.
He was never my favorite character, but in terms of the show’s continuity, it just makes it look bad that last season he’s close with Emma and Henry, and this season, everyone pretty much forgets all about him, not even any mention of him since episode 3.
Anyhow, while I’m not sure about the time line for him to be able to bring Henry to Storybrooke because it seems like he was in Phuket from the time he took the money from Neal until he started turning back to wood on Emma’s 28th birthday, but I always thought that there was something to Regina saying he looked familiar to her. So for characters that are on canvas right now, I would say that August probably had some part in bringing Henry to Storybrooke while Greg has something to do with Henry’s book.
I forgot what the Blue Fairy’s words to August were, but yes I just looked it up on OUaT’s so that makes sense it’s about him. Mmm, since we still haven’t had someone big die this season, the title of this episode seems very ominous. I’m predicting that August redeems himself by dying this episode, and/or they up the stakes with Archie being able to be killed by killing off Marco since Archie may have protection as long as Marco is still alive.
Don’t really know if it works the same in our world or not, but Marco makes sense too because maybe everything will come out about the wardrobe lie, August’s secret, and Marco’s and August’s reunion, so there wouldn’t really be any need for Marco anymore. With all those story lines wrapped up, August could then decide to leave Storybrooke or stay there, but only pop up when they need him in a story line. I’m guessing August bites the dust though.
ETA: The Healer being a part of August’s back story makes sense because he stayed in that part of the world for a long time. It makes more sense to me than seeing Mulan’s back story since there’s so many loose ends that need to be wrapped up before the end of the season, and not a lot of time to do it in.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I was fine with Mulan (Aurora annoyed me up until the very last time we saw her, then she was ok) but I really thought their story wouldn’t be revisited until season 3. There’s so much packed into this last half of the season: Rumple/Bae; Rumple/Belle; Emma/Nealfire; Hook/Regina/Cora; Cora/Rumple; The Town/Axis of Evil; Greg Mendell and now FTL of the present??
Yes, I agree.
On one hand, I was disappointed that Aurora and Mulan just got left behind so easily after all the time spent with their characters and all the hype over the summer about those them being on the show. On the other hand, I felt like the present day FTL story line didn’t really go anywhere except to introduce Cora and Hook as the new villains and could have been resolved much quicker.
Unless there’s something big this season with the Wraith and/or the Room of Fire, then I’d rather they just save Aurora’s and Mulan’s back stories until next season because just going by the spoilers surrounding episodes 13-17, it still feels like there’s a lot of ground to cover, and not many episodes left to do that in.
@Phee wrote:
Ah, a good old self fulfilling prophecy, gotta love that tragic stuff! Can’t wait to find out exactly what this prophecy says, and also if this Seer is where Rumple gains his own skills of foresight. I’ve never thought of him as a real future seer before, but maybe he picks up some tricks from this girl, or just from his experience with her. If he misinterprets her prophecy and then his actions cause it to come true, that may be how he learns the art of carefully crafting his words, which is how he ends up such a pro at saying exactly the right things to manipulate people’s actions.
Yes, I love the idea of Rumple falling into some kind of self fulfilling prophecy because that’s such a staple of ancient Greek drama. Plus, K&H are both big Star Wars fans, I believe, so that’s another reason I could see them wanting to do a story line involving Rumple hearing a prophecy and instead of it not coming true like he wishes whatever he does sets events in motion for it to happen.
Also I really love all the suggestions for the new Axis of Evil.
@Lil’Red wrote:
..makes predictions that can be difficult to understand.
….I feel like we’re about to head into a prophecy/ prophecies overload. Guess it wouldn’t be an epic/adventure saga without some prophecies that won’t make sense until the series end! 😆
Yes, I really wonder where they’re going with all of the prophecy stuff and now Greg too. Last season was pretty cut and dry because it was all about getting Emma to believe and break the Curse, and defeat the Evil Queen. This year I still don’t really know what they’re building up to other than Cora and Hook getting revenge on Rumple, and everyone finding out that Henry’s father is Rumple’s son. I think that’s good and bad because it’s very unpredictable, but at the same time, I hope that everything makes sense by the end of the season. Right now I’m not sure it does other than Rumple and Regina trying to change and then falling back into their old ways.
@Lil’Red wrote:
Anyone else think Spencer Drever (called ‘boy’ in the press release) could be a young Rumpel…or is that getting into too much story for one episode.
They do look alike. I wouldn’t mind seeing Rumple as a young boy, and then later on, as long as it flowed okay unlike some of the earlier episodes this season where the different story lines didn’t really work together, and it wasn’t too much. However, since this is a K&H episode, I would definitely predict that this episode will be jam packed, but unfortunately probably have some holes in it too like “Land of Magic” and “Queen of Hearts”.
So I think you could be onto something since Brighid Fleming and Shannon Lucio look alike, and could possibly be the same seer, maybe Rumple meets her when they’re both younger, and then later on when they’re both older.
@Phee wrote:
Excellent point! They’d hardly get an American kid to fake a Brit accent. Adult actors have enough trouble with that, so they couldn’t expect a kid to be able to master it. I actually think he looks more like Colin than he does Josh, but given the accent thing, I’d say he’s gotta be a young James and/or Charming.
Didn’t know about the nationalities of Benjamin Stockham and John Pyper-Ferguson, but that makes me even more convinced that it’s not Hook but most likely Prince James and King George because they would have likely found a younger actor that sounded like Colin O’Donoghue if it were a younger Hook.
