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From Celebuzz, http://www.celebuzz.com/2012-12-02/once-upon-a-time-preview-7-things-to-expect-from-the-winter-cliffhanger/
1. Emma may have some ‘splaining to do with Hook after leaving him on the beanstalk, but she can more than hold her own! “They come face-to-face, and I think it’s very honest,” Morrison said of Emma and Hook.
“I think it’s what it would be,” she says. “Unfortunately Emma’s put into a situation where she now needs something, and he has the upper hand, and there’s a constant ping-pong back and forth of a power shift between them. He needs something and uses her, and she needs something and uses him, and they’re always trying to rely on their abilities to charm and manipulate to get each other to do things.”
2. Emma has to step up and prove her strength once again — becoming more of a mom with her own mom than she ever was with Henry.“The thing I was most looking forward to when I was told the curse was going to be broken at the end of last season [were] these mother/daughter scenes. And they weren’t at all what I expected because I didn’t know that we were going to thrust into a fairytale world and therefore our bonding would have to occur while dealing with magical obstacles. But, I think actually that’s the best way to learn who someone is — to discover how it is that they navigate adversary. These two women learn a lot about each other and themselves at the same time,” Goodwin said.
“The dynamic between Emma and Snow shifts a bit because of that experience, and Snow needs a bit of care-taking after coming face-to-face with Charming and thinking they were going to be able to be together, even if it was in some sort of hallucinatory dream state [where] clearly, they’re not even able to touch,” Morrison added.
3. Hook will prove to be able to hold his own as a villain, even though Cora is the flashier, more in-everyone’s-face enemy right now. “You have to remember that he is as old as Rumplestiltskin; he’s seen his fair share of stuff, and I think he’s the type of guy who’s not scared of anything at all,” O’Donoghue said.
“I think he’s as ruthless as her — and why I think that is because there is no love. His love his dead,” he continued. “Cora still has a daughter and still has that stuff. He is literally completely motivated by revenge, and that’s a really dangerous thing because if anything gets in the way of that, he has no problem chopping somebody down. It’s literally all about him.”
4. Regina will find redemption by helping those with whom she generally wants nothing to do.“This entire second season, up until Episode 12, probably, she will do the right thing. Not everyone will believe her– not everyone will believe her efforts—but she is genuinely trying to do the right thing, and I love her for that,” Parrilla said.
5. What will the new portal be!? Though the potential portal between worlds in Jefferson’s hat was destroyed, a new one is this close to being found. But, will it be powerful enough to bring Emma and Mary Margaret across — all while keeping Cora and Hook out? And if anyone manages to survive getting through it, where will it leave them this time?
“We don’t know what’s going on on the Storybrooke side, and they don’t know what’s going on on the fairytale side because of the way Gold and Regina have sort of plotted against them initially and then changed their minds,” Morrison said. “So, the last thing [Emma] expects is that [anyone] will be there if [she] comes through.”
6. Even the couples who are physically together will undergo obstacles and stressors that keep them from their happily ever after. “For people who want Belle and Rumple together, you’re not necessarily going to get that. You’re going to get a better that: a real relationship with peaks and troughs…She wants him to be a certain way; he’s trying to be a better man—he actually says that—but whether he’s successful, we’ll see,” Carlyle said.
7. Say good-bye to Aurora and Mulan… for a short time. “Queen of Hearts” is the last time we’ll see both Sarah Bolger and Jamie Chung for awhile, as the show diverges from their mission. “They never had any desire to [go to Storybrooke],” said show producer Steve Pearlman. “They’ve got to go find Prince Phillip, and that’s where we leave them at the end of Episode 9 because they’ve heard you can get the soul back out of the wraith after the wraith has eaten them.”
Mmm, so I guess I must finally accept that it’s dead well at least in the form of Emma and Snow really being Hook and Cora.
For the time being though, I will not give up the theory that Cora will impersonate someone to get Regina to look bad especially after reading this.
4. Regina will find redemption by helping those with whom she generally wants nothing to do.“This entire second season, up until Episode 12, probably, she will do the right thing. Not everyone will believe her– not everyone will believe her efforts—but she is genuinely trying to do the right thing, and I love her for that,” Parrilla said.
I think Cora will do something that really sets Regina back, but maybe she doesn’t know that it’s Cora or that she knows that it’s Cora but no one believes her.
[adrotate group="5"]@Phee wrote:
They may be classicaly piratey traits, but for me at least, the gold coin and the rum called to mind specific and iconic Captain Jack moments, so I considered them little shoutouts. There’s no way they could have Captain Jack on this show, because no one else could ever play that role, but the character is a huge entity for Disney, so it’s expected they’d have nods to him, and it didn’t make Hook any less his own character IMO.
Yes, film/television pirates do share a lot of the same traits, but those things you mentioned were definitely nods to Jack Sparrow which makes sense because of how much money those make for Disney.
In the recent podcast they related HOOK not being afraid of Cora / being killed to PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN …. Davy Jones ( Killian Jones) hid his heart in a box and could not be killed ( in Pirates) IT is theorized that HOOK took out his own heart and hid it……
I wouldn’t be surprised by this because the villain taking out his heart or soul and hiding it somewhere else is a very common theme in folklore, and if Hook wants to go up against Rumple, he’s going to need all the tricks that he can to have his revenge. Plus, I can see a scenario where perhaps they kill Cora or banish her somewhere because I don’t think Barbara Hershey wants to be tied down to the show otherwise they would likely have made her a regular, but keeping Hook around as a threat even if they temporarily defeat him this season. So maybe they only think that they’ve killed/vanquished him, but he has an ace up his sleeve and comes back some point next season for another round.
@fairy dust wrote:
Ok…..I think that the title has something to do with DARTS. Cricket is a Dart game and a simplified version of Cricket is called Mickey Mouse. Considering there is a dart board in the Sheriff’s office, Graham played darts ANDthere is a huge dart board in the main promo picture for Season 2…I’m guessing it has something to do with this. Is it possible Graham will return?????
You always find the coolest information, fairy dust.
I agree with medchen, this does seem to make more sense because of the Mickey Mouse connection, and most Americans would be familiar with darts than they would cricket since most follow baseball instead. Plus, I think a darts game as metaphor for something going on during the episode would not only be easier for Americans to get, but might make more sense because there’s a target, and there are two players, or perhaps in this case two teams (good vs. evil) that are aiming for that target.
If that’s true that seriously diminishes their options on what to do with their characters. I’m not saying its not true, but how rude and unfair it is if the death of iconic villains of Disney is acceptable but not the death of iconic heroes… Ones again I’m on the bad guys side.
Well perhaps they will let an iconic hero or heroes die, but it just seems unlikely to me right now because outside of the show, those characters, especially the Disney princess line, make a lot of money for Disney, so they might not want to risk killing them off on the show for fear of hurting their bottom line. I don’t think that it would, but there’s a lot of money to be made from those characters outside of the show, so I can understand Disney being concerned about things like that.
Just imagine the headlines that the media would come up with if the OUaT killed off Snow White, like “Disney kills Snow White”, and then kids seeing Snow die on the show. There would not only be a backlash from lifelong loyal Disney patrons who Disney feels might decide to turn their backs on the company for letting them kill off an iconic, beloved character, but they would also have to think about the kids who would see the headlines and see Snow White dying on the show. They might not have bought Snow White merchandise before that event, but then again, maybe, Disney thinks, they would have had their favorite Disney princess not been killed off.
It might also have the adverse effect of them not getting lured in on being a lifelong loyal Disney patron because they try to get the kids, especially the girls, in believing the fairy tale can come true for everyone. However, if one of the Disney princesses like Snow dies, then maybe that means happy endings don’t really happen which means that those kids don’t get reeled in and they spend their money on other brands not only as kids but later on as adults. So that kid grows up to be an adult with a family, but a family vacation to a Disney resort might not be something that person can’t resist, so he/she chooses to take their family and their money elsewhere. Of course, if that person had chosen Disney, then the whole cycle is just waiting to start again so that Disney can reel that person’s kids in. (For the record, Disney definitely got me at an early age, and I still love them.)
@Elle wrote:
In her defense, she was still a teenager. She had just been abandoned, and she wanted to hold out on hope. A lot of the women on this show react pretty badly when the man they love dies or leaves them. 🙂
Yes, plus not only was she a teenager, but she’s a teenager whose never felt like she’s had a home in her whole life because every time she gets a family, they eventually shuffle her off to the next family. As we saw in “Lady of the Lake”, a scene that still gets me choked up, despite her tough exterior, Emma doesn’t really have any self esteem at all because she never felt like she was valuable in anyone’s eyes until Neal, who she thought conned her, and later her family.
Emma Swan: I was angry at you for so long. Wondering how you could choose to let me grow up without you. But then, just seeing all this… you gave up everything… for me, and you’re still doing that. I’m sorry, I’m not good at this. I… I guess I just… I’m not…
[chokes up]
Emma Swan: I’m not used to someone putting me first.
Snow White: [walks over and embraces her crying daughter] Oh. Well, get used to it.😥
Regina (combined with her tragic abuse) became vengeful and blamed everything on Snow White. Snow White (though Prince Charming did not leave her) became depressed and tried to forget him. And Belle sat in a bar lonely and wistful.
Yes, there’s also a parallel there between Regina keeping Daniel’s ring on her necklace to remind her of him, and with Emma wearing the key chain on her necklace. It’s both good and bad for them because they remember the good times that they had with their true loves. However, with Regina whenever she looked at it, the good times also fueled her desire for revenge knowing what could have been with Daniel had Snow not ruined it (well at least in Regina’s mind of course), and probably for Emma, before she found Snow and Charming, there may have been relationships that could have worked, but then she’d doubt herself because she’d see the key chain and self sabotage herself or run away before someone could “use” her again like Neal did.
I think staying in Tallahassee for two years was similar to that. In some ways, she wanted to believe that there was still some hope that maybe Neal didn’t run out on her, and he would be there. However, at other times, she probably wanted to find him that way she could kill him, well if not kill him, at least get some type of revenge or at least closure on the whole situation.
@medchen wrote:
I don’t think there’s anyone on this show who is evil.
Really they are taking all the fun out of evil, buy butchering the core of evil villains and just making them lost souls really…..Yes, I mean I get that they want to make the villains layered, but not every villain needs to be imo because then it starts to get ridiculous that it wasn’t really the Villain A’s fault, it was Villain B’s fault for helping turn Villain A into a villain, but wait, it wasn’t really Villain B’s fault either because there was another villain before Villain B that caused Villain B to become evil.
It really irritated me when they tried to do this with Cora too already when we were told that Cora wasn’t always like she was before Rumple came along by her husband, because why couldn’t she just be evil because that’s how she always was since sometimes it just happens like that in real life too. Or maybe it’s I don’t like how they kept telling us instead of showing us at the beginning of this season how evil Cora was, and then they had to go and tell us something about her to try to get us to sympathize with her without showing us. It just doesn’t make for effective storytelling because at the time Cora didn’t seem to have done anything worse than Regina and Rumple, and I really couldn’t sympathize without really seeing what happened because maybe she had was conning her husband Henry all along by pretending to be a good person.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
She could be Tiana from Disney’s The Princess and the Frog.
It sounds like Tiana to me too.
@Marilou wrote:
and I read somewhere on tumblr that archie diesis it true? I could not find the source or anything else pointing to that.
It’s just speculation right now since the Sheriff who must not be named last year around the same time, people are speculating that they’ll kill off another important character around the middle of the season.
I would guess maybe Pinocchio though just because Eion Bailey now finding a new show that he’s going to be the lead on and being demoted from regular to recurring at the beginning of this season, but I think if they kill him off it would be closer to the end of this season so that he can try to help Neal explain to Emma what happened.
Although I’m not sure they would actually kill off any of Disney’s iconic characters, which is why I’m not sure that they’ll kill off Archie either because Jiminy Cricket is almost as iconic as Pinocchio.@Phee wrote:
I could get behind the idea of CaptainQueen if they went in that direction. Only problem is, if he’s now allied with Cora, Regina may not want anything to do with him. If they can resolve that somehow, then I agree, they have a fair bit in common and could potentially get along as a couple.
I’ve been thinking a lot about this after I wrote that post because I feel hypocritical. I don’t think I would mind a fling or a situation where Regina decided that evil was more fun and went back to her old ways, but as long as Regina is trying to turn over a new leaf, and Hook isn’t, I couldn’t even pair her with him if I wouldn’t do that to any of the other female characters onscreen right now except Cora because she’s equally as villainous as Hook right now. Given the abuse that Regina suffered at the hands of her mom, Hook is probably the last person that she should be paired with at this point. Not saying that he would necessarily be abusive to her, but if he can do what he did to Belle when no one is around showing his true character, imo, he could do that to any person including Regina later on. Sometimes I just hate her, well not really but there have been times that I don’t like her, instead of loving to hate her, especially last season, but I can’t even do that to Regina or really any female character not named Cora that’s onscreen right now unless Hook sought help for his issues. It’s a shame because I was crack shipping him with Regina, Aurora, and Ariel, but it’s just not fun for me anymore.
Sorry to be on my soap box, but I was already disturbed last year when some in fandom brushed off what Regina did to Graham as being okay because she’s hot. Now I’m back to that point again because I’ve seen people justify Hook violating Aurora and hitting Belle and about to kill her because it’s okay, Aurora was already knocked out so she didn’t feel anything, and he did only knocked out Belle to make it less painful on her when he killed her. Geeze, how thoughtful of him to do that. [/sarcasm]
I do I love that they’re finally having Hook act as a true villain though.
I know it’s ridiculous, but I’m still not entirely convinced that it’ll definitely be the real Snow and Emma. It’s not even that I care whether or not the impostor theory is true, it’s just that I’m utterly cynical and think that if they show us something so major and so blatant in the promo, there’s a good chance they’re just trying to mislead us. I don’t trust promo makers! 😆 Of course, the misdirection could instead be that they’re making it look like the real Emma and Snow are jumping into the trap that’ll kill them, when in actual fact there’ll be no danger by that time. But basically, one way or the other, there be lies of some sort in that promo. 😈
lol, that’s why I still want it to be true because I feel spoiled myself too much and want some kind of twist that will still surprise me. 😆 Of course, I’m sure I’ll still love it.
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
@Phee wrote:
Regarding the note, I expect it’ll be something along the lines of:
Dear Emma and Snow,
I got here first. Suck it. 😛
No love, from CoraAnd right after they read it will be the bit where the wall of the cell comes crashing down to trap them.
You know what makes this so sad? This actually sounds plausible. 😆
Yes, I guess they could fake a note from Rumple, but this way probably gets to the point quicker that Cora and Hook have got the upper hand on the Princesses.
Here’s another promo someone saw tonight, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTc_b_H1_Y8. It shows Emma and Snow jumping in the portal. I wonder what happened to Mulan and Aurora. I feel bad that it looks like they’ll be stuck with Cora and Hook, and that likely Aurora didn’t get her heart back.
