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I wonder whose episode this will be. I’m guessing if there’s is an episode about the Mysterious Man before the break, it will be episode 9. Plus, if we’re sort of going by the pattern set last year, finding out more about the Mysterious Man then makes sense since episode 9 last year was where Henry asked about his father.
Episode 8 last year was a Rumple-centric episode, but since “The Crocodile” looks to be Rumple-centric, I don’t think they’ll have him get another episode so soon, so maybe this will be Hook’s episode or one of the the other new character’s.
[adrotate group="5"]@slurpeez108 wrote:
Brief synopsis for 2×5 The Doctor:
Noah Bean is Daniel, who could be Regina’s “ghost from her past.” Also, I think this may set her on the road to redemption, hopefully, as she realizes Daniel would’ve been horrified by what she’s become.I would hope so, but I think it’s too early to start redeeming her. She might think about redeeming herself, but something will probably cause her to choose to be evil again this season.
It’s interesting to note that Colin O’Donoghue (Captain Hook) is in episode 5 as well. Perhaps he is the “survivor” of the Ogre massacre.
I think so too.
@Faux Pax wrote:
I actually haven’t seen true blood but i did youtube some interviews MRJ did a while back (that had nothing to do with OUAT) to get a feel for his personality–we really didn’t get much of that in the scene–just to get an idea of how he might play the character and i must say i’m impressed. This might just turn out to be an awesome thing for the show….too bad he's not slated to be in another epp for a while
You should really watch Terriers, because he’s awesome in that. I can’t wait to see more of him on OUaT working with the rest of the cast instead of in a different place from everyone else.
That’s a good way to cut production cost, but it drives people like us crazy, not knowing what’s on purpose and what’s just filler.
That’s true. I didn’t think that it could be because of the Saved by the Bell syndrome as I like to call it.
I’m starting to like the theory that Bae could have traveled through many different worlds before ending up in Real Life and that he could actually be more than one realm jumping character. Starting as Jack, then Peter Pan, the White Rabbit and maybe even the Wizard of Oz before ending up in New York (and perhaps he fell for and knocked up Emma along the way which could explain the whole disillusioned thing he’s projecting). I’m just really starting to hope now that he’s Bae and or Henry’s father and at least one important character that will stick around for awhile and perhaps be a love interest for Emma. I’m still kinda pissed at True Blood for making him a bad guy and killing him off! hahaha.
That’s an interesting theory. On one hand, I don’t want him to overshadow Emma, but on the other hand, I do think that he’s going to be very important character to the show since he’s the reason why everything happened in the first place. I was also thinking that since a lot of other posters have emphasized that the Blue Fairy said to follow where the magic bean took him that maybe he did travel through those places but only passed through, because I’m becoming more convinced that he was the author of Henry’s book and that could be why he included all those other worlds in the book instead of just Fairy Tale World. (Drat, I read a theory recently that partly inspired me, but now I can’t find it.)
Also, the person who caught the (Bael)fire escape hint, wrote this long post about how different parts of the Mysterious Man’s walk could mean different things. Like Central Park represents the Enchanted Forest, and then he crosses a busy street, which could mean he was going from one world to another. Then, he goes to the subway which could represent him falling through a rabbit hole. Then he takes an elevator upstairs which could represent flying or climbing a giant beanstalk. There’s more to the theory here, http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3215290&view=findpost&p=15263137, but it could explain why all these different worlds are in the book and why there’s so many theories about what happened to Bae after he fell through the vortex other than just being red herrings perhaps each theory has a grain of truth in them. So he was like Peter in that he went to Neverland and was lost, but he wasn’t the Peter Pan. Or he was like the Wizard of Oz in that he went to Oz and didn’t have any actual magical power, but he’s not the Wizard. Plus, since it seems like Emma is going through this long journey meeting all these new characters from different worlds that got destroyed, then perhaps Bae went through a journey similar to that. Further, right now for me it seems like maybe part of breaking the Curse entirely or at least setting things back to normal is building each world again and the doorways to each world, so it would help if Emma had an ally that had experience with each world in some way.
He’s not going to be in the next episode?? HOW LONG OF A WAIT DO WE HAVE???? I need at least a short cut scene of him for the next few episodes or I’m not responsible for the theories that may arise!
Yes, I’m very disappointed that it seems like we won’t even get a shot of what Mysterious Man is doing until episode 6. That’s a really long time to wait, and while the producers were being honest about how we would find out more about him before the mid-season break, it’s still a long time to have to wait. 😥
I’m not going to be responsible for any of my theories that may arise either especially if we don’t find out some information about episode 6 in the near future or at least episode 4 because at least we’ll get to see a baby Baelfire or at least a very young Baelfire, I think, and how much importance he may or may not have in the Hook storyline.
So many things to comment on.
First, I found some other hints that point towards Bae that I didn’t catch. The obvious one is how the “fire” escape was a big part of his introduction, and we know that they love to hint at Bae’s presence by the using the word fire somehow or by showing fire like in the People magazine spread.
The other clue was in the song, “Charley’s Girl”. “I’m gonna punch her face in” is very similar, imo, to how Emma’s comment later on to Rumple about just punching his face in. Plus, I think that something like the scenario in “Charley’s Girl” happened between Emma and Bae. Maybe she thought he turned her in, or he thought she turned him in for something, but something happened that lead to one of both of them going to jail and probably thinking that the other one was the cause.
Second, I guess the comments about Bae and August were deleted for being naughty, lol. I don’t know if they roomed together, but I could see Bae helping August out with money and what not, and maybe August helped fix up Bae’s old junk. Plus, I really don’t know if August was really a writer, but now that I’ve seen Mysterious Man’s apartment and compared it to his Gold’s pawnshop, I think it’s a good possibility that Bae was the one that lent/gave August the typewriter. It seems more of a Bae hoarder/collector thing than really being August’s to me, and because Bae’s apartment and his dad’s shop mirror each other, it wouldn’t be that surprising that Bae owned the old typewriter first because there’s also an old typewriter in his dad’s shop.
There were other things that I noticed mirror each other. (In fact, until episode 6 finally airs, I can see myself making a chart to see what items each room has in common and including Henry’s room in it too.) Right now though, I wanted to write about few other similarities between the two places. One is that I they chose the “Bike Ride” poster in Bae’s apartment as a way of mirroring the bicycles that are hanging in the pawnshop. Another one is that the pawnshop also contains vintage items relating to music like the gramophone and a very old fashioned radio, not to mention all the musical instruments hanging up. Yes, the rooms aren’t exact replicas of each other, but I think the wonderful art direction is just to evoke the same kind of feel that these men are related to each other.
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. What bothers me though, is why would they give the White ribbat such an important introduction as the opening scene? I mean in a lot of ways it mirrors what we saw of Emma in the first epp.
Yes, I’ve seen a lot of people saying that he’s the White Rabbit, and even say the actor looks like a bunny (I don’t know if that’s good or bad), and while I don’t think he is, it’s possible that the writers either are trying to fool people into thinking that he isn’t Bae like the whole August thing again, or they mean for us to catch the Alice in Wonderland hints just like how Henry has been like Sleeping Beauty or Emma like Prince Phillip, even though they’re all original characters, it doesn’t mean that the writers can’t have them do something that parallels an already existing story. I think he has to be Bae though and not just the White Rabbit because I agree that I don’t think that they would use the introductory scene of the new scene to be a minor character like the White Rabbit especially with so many connections between the opening scene of season 1, the use of Snowing’s bird, and the Beauty and the Beast hint. (I really wished they would have kept the doves in “Skin Deep”, so it would be another connection to Rumple.)
Finally, I think the mysterious trophy in mysterious man’s apartment is probably a women’s bowling trophy(?) as other sites have stated, but someone suggested that it could be a bocce ball trophy since he lives in Little Italy. I don’t believe it is a bocce ball trophy, but I thought it was interesting that in that game the smaller ball is called a “jack”.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
‘Once Upon A Time’ Season 2 Scoop From Creators Adam Horowitz And Eddy Kitsis
Horowitz: The Giant [from “Jack and the Beanstalk”]Interesting that they didn’t say that we would see Jack too. I wonder if that’s because Bae is Jack, well at least Jack in our world, and they didn’t want to give that away.
I also wonder if that’s really Mysterious Man’s name though because while I think it’s obvious now that the casting call for Jack was for his character, I wonder if he’ll go by another name Peter, Charley, Robin, etc. Jack makes a lot sense because it’s a common name here and in many fairy tales/nursery rhymes, and he’s tied to the magic beans, but then I’m irrationally afraid that he’ll become the Jack Shepherd of OUaT. (Although Jack Shepherd would be a good alias too though because of his connection to wool, but it would be too confusing for viewers.)
@slurpeez108 wrote:
I don’t think Phillip is dead either. Adam and Eddy hinted his soul was retrievable and that they didn't see him die. This is all sounding very reminiscent of the Disney cartoon Hercules when he went to the underworld to save Meg’s soul, and he became an immortal because of his heroics. Could we meet Hercules, since we’ve seen Greek mythology already? I don’t mean this as a “serious” theory, but still fun to speculate. 🙂
Yes, I don’t think he’s dead either. I had another idea about how to possibly get back the lost souls, but using Hercules or rather just incorporating a similar story like the movie makes sense because of the Disney connection. Plus, I could see 3 of the new characters (Aurora, Mulan, or Lancelot) deciding to make some kind of sacrifice by staying in Hades while the others get out if it came down to that. Not that it will come down to that, but it does seem like at least one of them will sacrifice themselves since that seems to be part of the theme being set up this year.
My idea in my Bae-obsessed brain though was that somehow he is connected in helping destroy the Wraiths because his name means great or fatal fire, and that’s what was used to attack them. Of course, his storyline doesn’t have anything to do with that particular storyline at least not yet.
I don’t know how I feel about this. I like it from the standpoint of more eye candy; although, I think he’s wearing too much eyeliner in some of the preview clips, but it feels really soon when we don’t even know if the actor and/or character will be that good yet.
Perhaps they were planning this all along, and didn’t want to say anything earlier, but I just hope it’s not fan service because Hook is already so popular. Well I mean yeah, they have to try to keep most fans happy, but don’t just wedge it in there awkwardly like I felt they’ve done to some other things that became popular like Jefferson and Rumbelle.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Oh, I’m so excited for that newest spoiler! First, we get to see more of Red's backstory (ep. 7) and possibly how she met the wizard who gave her the red cloak. Also, get to see what happened to August/Pinocchio. 🙂 I think the clip of MRJ in 2×1 could’ve been a glimpse of what will happen in the future, not necessarily what has already happened. Adam and Eddy might have intentionally put that clip in to keep us guessing about his identity, but that event might not take place sequentially until episode 6 or later. That way, August really could be the sender of the mysterious postcard, now that we know Eion will reprise the role.
Ooh, good point, after all they are being very much like “Lost”, so it’s definitely a possibility that the mysterious postcard didn’t get sent right after Emma kissed Henry but weeks or perhaps months later by August when he was finally able to send one out. I did think of another possibility that the postcard happened earlier in time like when August first knew that Emma had went to Storybrooke and that he was then breaking due to that, but the producers said that magic affected the real world after it was unleashed, so the postcard must be what they’re referring to.
I have no idea where to put this because it’s two new yet minor spoilers to me, but both about different things. Since I’m obsessed with this topic, I’ll put it here because of a theory I have already about one of the spoilers.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Greys-1054166.aspx
You promised Once Upon a Time scoop on the fate of Pinocchio and how Prince Charming and Snow White would take back their kingdom! — Joseph
NATALIE: And I will keep my word! This season’s third episode will feature a fairy-tale land flashback to Snow and Charming’s post-reunion plan — and there will be familiar faces helping them along the way. “We’ve seen their war council,” executive producer Adam Horowitz says. “Snow’s got a really great relationship with Red, and I think that is a story we want to tell.” Horowitz also promises that August’s fate — whether he’s dead now because he went all wooden — will be explained in this Sunday’s episode, but fear not because Eion Bailey has already returned to filming this season!I’m not really interested in the Snowing spoiler as I am the August spoiler. I’m just going to put it out there that I think August’s return ties in with the Mysterious Man somehow.
First, we know that MR-J isn’t in episode 2, 3, 4, and likely 5 because it’s Dr. Whale’s episode unless he gets a quick scene at the end to set up episode 6. Of course, I don’t know for sure that he’ll be in episode 6, but I would almost bet real money at this point that he will be. It’s the big Emma-centric episode. There’s reliable spoilers that this is where we finally learn who the baby daddy is. Plus, we’re suppose to learn a lot more about the Mysterious Man before the mid-season break. Since it’s likely we won’t learn that much in episode 7 because MR-J isn’t even around right now shooting it, and because it’s a Ruby-centric episode, that means that 6, 8, and/or 9 have to be where we find out more about him.
Second, I’m not sure if Pinocchio did send Mysterious Man the postcard. I think that he could have before he turned to wood completely thinking that it may have been his last chance to save himself if he could bring the real Bae there by lying to him about the Curse being broken. Or maybe he’s a living puppet that sent it.
I do think that they know each other somehow because obviously I think Mysterious Man is Baelfire, and I think that Baelfire was the one that told August about Rumple’s dagger, and to fool Rumple into thinking that August was Bae by adding intimate details like to call Rumple, “papa” and the drawing of what the Dagger looked like. Sure it’s possible that the Blue Fairy was involved, but I think her meeting with August was just a red herring perhaps suggested by Bae to August to fool Rumple even more into believing August was Bae, because I think only Bae would have known some of the details that August knew about.
While I’m not sure Bae will actually return to Storybrooke in the first half of the season anymore after finding out that residents of Storybrooke will lose their memories if they do venture outside city limits, and knowing that the favor that Emma still owes Rumple will be a factor this year, I do think we’ll learn more about him before the mid-season break through his connection with August.
@Faux Pax wrote:
I like the idea that what Rumple caused lasting damage and not just him being bitter or angry or whatnot. I think that Bae almost has to be damaged deeply if Rumple is ever going to change. There are only a precious few people who he cares about and if the only way he will care about his actions is if they hurt one of those people.
Yes, I know we’ve speculated here about how Bae fits being Henry’s dad given what we know about what Emma said about Henry’s dad, and while I still believe that he just has to be the dad, he doesn’t seem as bad as she described him. Okay, I know people change and mature, but he still seemed like the sad, little boy that his father abandoned. I know a few people here didn’t like the idea when I presented it last time that maybe Bae wasn’t necessarily a criminal or criminal type that saved his own skin rather than going to jail with Emma or running away with her or was a married guy that ended it when his wife found out, but maybe he was simply a guy got scared because he knew no one would ever believe what happened to him and broke it off by making up something like he was married.
Again people can change, and it could be that when Bae first arrived, he did get sucked into a gang or something like that, that offered him a makeshift family and protection, and he changed his life around like Emma did her’s. Or maybe he was married at one point or both. It’s just very difficult to know for sure just based on one little glimpse into his life now, but for me he just seemed like a guy that was a loner and has very much been for most of his life. I don’t think he has any friends except perhaps a few acquaintances from his job that he probably hates and maybe a few people the he knows that he talks about music with. He’s probably had very few serious romantic relationships, maybe only one perhaps with Emma. Maybe he did get into some minor trouble when he was younger, but he doesn’t seem like he was ever a bad boy type, imo. I definitely think he’s bitter, cynical, and angry, how could you not be, but I guess instead of him leashing that out on the world, to me it seems like he kept it all bottled up on the inside.
Finally, I’m not sure if this the cover on his pull out bed is a Balfour tartan, but it sort of looks like a variation of it to me.
