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@hjbau wrote:
Wait what is this tweet exactly? Do you have a link?
He just tweeted a few days ago about some of his ohana being in a new movie and to check out the link for it. Then, someone started a conversation with him that ohana means family, and he said he knew that because he has it tattooed over his heart.
https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/237703451847557120
When he was first cast, I went to his IMDb page, and of the things I learned was that he’s had the tattoo for awhile, so it’s nothing he may have got for the show. However, I think if they want to incorporate into the show somehow, it wouldn’t be the worst idea they’ve ever if he does turn out to be Bae since it does mean family, and it’s nice bonus Disney shout-out as well because of the Lilo and Stitch connection to the word. Plus, if he’s Bae and Henry’s dad, they could have some kind of back story about that tattoo being connected to the tattoo that Emma has on her wrist. (Although, hopefully it wouldn’t be like Lost’s “Stranger in a Strange Land” episode which I know a lot Lost fans hated.)
Nothing new on the spoiler front except I read that the title of the second episode is going to be “Absent”, but I don’t have any kind of reliable source just someone at Tumblr who posted that. It seems like an apt title because Emma and Mary Margaret are missing in Storybrooke, and perhaps it could also refer to Cora’s absence of motherly love towards Regina since the second episode is Regina-centric.
I also fell for an alleged spoiler about a new promo that ran last night during 20/20. Unfortunately since I had just woken up, I actually believed that part of the promo had Rumple showing Emma a picture of Bae, and her gasping. It wasn’t until I read other people’s comments toward the alleged promo that I realized that it was just a troll. 😥
[adrotate group="5"]@Phee wrote:
They don’t all know that Rumple is the one who created the curse, do they? They think it was all Regina’s doing, right? Maybe that ignorance is why Charming seems to be working with Rumple, because even though he’s a bad guy, he believes their current predicament is thanks to Regina? But BF likely knows, and you’d think she’d have told them, right? Unless she’s chosen not to for now, for whatever reason? Maybe because they need Rumple on their side to get Emma and Snow back? How many question marks can a person use in one paragraph?
I forget. I know Emma knows for sure, but she’s gone and I don’t think the rest of Storybrooke knows that yet. As for the BF, she might still be covering for herself since Snowing probably doesn’t know about August yet. Henry knows about August of course, but I think they’ll wait to play out the drama of Snowing finding out until Emma and Snow return from wherever they are.
I’ve seen speculation ages ago where people said it’d be very fitting if Belle was the one to re-open the library.
Yes, I’ve seen a lot of speculation from other places how Belle standing in front of the library means that she’ll be in charge of running the library. I’m not sure how I feel about that though because I don’t want them to take too much from the Disney movie. Don’t get me wrong because I loved how they worked Gaston and Chip into “Skin Deep”, and I would think it was funny, neat shout-out if Mr. Gold’s first name to turned out to be Adam’s, the same name as the Beast’s in the Disney movie, but I’m not sure if I want her to run the library.
Now if someone else suggests the idea on the show about opening the library back up, and she hears about it or sees a poster about it, or someone suggest to her that she could help with restoring it, I don’t mind that idea, but I guess I feel that after 28 years of being locked up and not knowing about our world at all, I’m not sure if I would find it believable that she would come up with restoring and opening up the library on her own.
@Lil’Red wrote:
With new pictures showing Rumple and Charming together, I’m wondering if unattended Henry is going to come across daddy…before anyone realizes. If they want to build a father/son relationship at some point (this season or in a couple) it might be nice if they met and had some chemistry prior to the drama unfolding.
If Bae is Henry’s dad, it has become an even likely scenario just based on the pics of the last few days that he’s going to come to town first as Henry’s dad rather than as Bae because all the main actors connected to that potential storyline, except Henry, seem to be preoccupied with something else or missing, even Regina seems to have somewhat disappeared since there hasn’t been much mention of Lana or from Lana since episode 2. Maybe she’s behind the kidnapping of Belle and keeping her involved with the Captain Hook story will allow more time for father and son to bond?
Also, Rumple seem a bit preoccupied: maybe enough that he wouldn’t notice a new guy, with brown hair and brown eyes, lurking around town. Yet, anyway.
Seems like anyone who could identify Henry’s dad (and/or Baelfire) are being kept busy. Probably just to add suspense.
If he’s neither and really just another red herring…
Yes, I think Rumple is so busy with Belle that he’s not going to notice a new guy in town especially if Bae/Henry’s dad stays mostly out of the way for now. It took him awhile to suspect August was Bae, or at least the show made it seem like he did, and now he’s got even more problems to worry about, so it could happen.
I just worry that it’s going to be another red herring too because it seems too obvious that the mysterious character is going to be Bae and/or Henry’s dad, but they are keeping MR-J on for the whole season, so I think he must be someone fairly important for them to do that.
Unfortunately, I haven’t found any spoilers on his Twitter lately about “OUaT”. The only thing is that he has a tattoo of the Hawaiian word for family over his heart, and possibly they could tie his real life tattoo into the show with whatever the secret is behind Emma’s tattoo. That’s all I got though.
@hjbau wrote:
I think it has already gotten old if they are still away four episodes in. That needs to stop. I like the idea though that Emma could come back and Henry’s father would just be there and she would be like what are you doing here.
I totally agree. I wouldn’t mind it being one or two episodes at most, but it seems like they’re going to drag out longer than that. I was really not looking forward to Snow and Charming being separated already, and to have to hear the inevitable, “you found me line” again.
If they do it in season 2, I would then just assume that Snowing being separated and Snow saying that line is going to be something that happens in every season now, and it’s just going to get even more tiresome than it became in season 1. Also, I fear the writers are either going to be recycling or using ideas that don’t make sense just to come up with a way for Snow and Charming to be separated every season. Ugh, I’m already hating the idea especially if “OUaT” lasts for several seasons.
Plus, there just seemed to be so much more dramatic and rich material from having the Charmings reuniting and trying to adjust to their living situation. Yes, it can still happen when Emma and Snow both return, but it’ll be a lot different since Emma and Snow will already have had spent so much time together knowing they’re mother and daughter, which means poor Charming gets the shaft again in a way, and Emma is missing even more time with Henry by separating the Charming family, which I just hate.
Finally, if they are time traveling, I hope it’s used well, but I fear with some of the other plot holes that they’ve made when creating their magical world that the use of time travel will create even more plot holes. So I’d rather they not use time travel at all since it seems something that could potentially lead to the show “jumping the shark”, imo, and it seems way too early for that to happen.
@Lil’Red wrote:
There’s not really proof for any of the other options either, though. They’ve been very careful to keep everything about his character closed up and quiet. No pictures from set. No cast tweets talking about working with him… I haven’t even seen local fans twitters about seeing MJR popping up anywhere….sort of weird: he has been there for a week or more? Could he be shooting a lot in the green studios??? Or are they just that good at messing with us? 😆
Yes, I have to give them a lot credit for keeping spoilers about MRJ to a minimum. I’m just worried though that it will turn into another August situation if they drag out the mystery too long, and fans ended up not liking the character because of it.
I hope that Emma and Snow return soon too because I don’t want them to be gone for over half the season. However, if they are gone for awhile, you’re right, it would give MRJ’s character plenty of time to stay on the scene as a mysterious character like Peter, Jack, and/or Bae and then reveal he’s Henry’s dad when Emma returns.
I still hope he turns out to be Jack, but I’m prepping myself for him to be Peter. Although, if he is Jack, maybe he could befriend Henry by telling him stories about what it was like for him to go through a vortex like the one that Henry’s mother and grandmother disappeared into.
Even if he’s Jack or Peter but really Bae, if Emma and Snow are traveling through time like I believe they are, I’m even more convinced now that Bae could have picked up enough knowledge about Fairy Tale Land to write Henry’s book if he went on a similar journey that Emma and Snow are on. Of course, being the writer of the book will be something else that he can bond with Henry on.
Why do all the good spoilers seem to come out when I’m working? I have a lot to catch up on.
First, after this recent spoiler from TV Line, http://tvline.com/2012/08/21/ask-ausiello-spoilers-on-glee-once-upon-castle-revenge-greys-himym-gossip-girl-and-more/,
Something will happen this season that will ensure Mary Margaret and Emma get a lot of mother-daughter bonding time, whether they like it or not. Bonus clue: Think Lost.
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I’m definitely thinking that Michael Raymond-James is going to be Peter Pan now not Jack.
Well actually I think he’s Bae, but Bae will turn out to be Peter Pan not Jack from “Jack and the Beanstalk” like I thought. It just makes too much sense right now just like how I tried to ignore August being Pinocchio despite all the evidence that was mounting up until that reveal.
1. Captain Hook and Smee are being connected to Rumple, Bae’s dad.
2. We have pictures of a tree fort/swing set that a lot of people are speculating is a Neverland set.
3. Michael Raymond-James started filming around the third episode of the show, and his character will be someone that will be around for at least season 2.
4. Emma and Snow White might be lost like “lost boys”. From early spoiler pictures, it seems like they fell into a vortex similar to the one that Bae fell into.Okay, it’s not really a lot of evidence, but it does seem to point towards him being Peter more than it does him being Jack right now.
@hjbau wrote:
I don’t think it seems like Jefferson blames Regina for what happened with his wife though. I think he blames himself. Like you said, they still seemed close in Hat Trick.
If Regina is behind his wife’s disappearance, I was going by the assumption that right now Jefferson doesn’t know that Regina had anything to do with it. Of course, Regina’s already done so many other bad things to him that maybe it would be overkill if they also made her the reason for the disappearance of his wife.
@obisgirl wrote:
I think I figured it out what it was. I was re-watching some clips between them and I think I know. Regina employed Jefferson to help her escape this realm while she was still married to Snow’s father but for whatever reason, either she betrayed him or had second thoughts and Regina’s original betrayal of Jefferson is what lead him to loose his wife (Grace’s mother).
I never thought about Regina being involved in the disappearance of Jefferson’s wife, but if Jefferson and Regina aren’t related, I do think there’s chemistry that suggests some kind of formerly very close relationship in “Hat Trick”. Plus, we all know that Regina is extremely jealous, so maybe Jefferson flirted with Regina maybe even done more when they were younger, but Grace’s mom enters the picture or is already in the picture, and he falls for her, leaving Regina wanting to get revenge on her for taking Jefferson away.
Right now there’s no evidence that suggests that she was involved in anyway with Jefferson’s wife disappearing, but I could see it becoming canon on the show once we find out more about Jefferson.
Edited to add that this pic confirms that we’ll be getting some Rumbelle moments in ep 4, (and the fact that it looks like she might be wearing a nightie suggests we’ll be seeing private moments with them at home, as opposed to out and about in town), and if the flashbacks are going to mirror that relationship at all, it makes me think even more that this Milha character will be Rumple’s ex.
I always miss everything when I’m work. Then, when I came home, I read another spoiler at Fan Forum and Tumblr about Gold shooting scenes with a “fat guy”, not my words, the person who saw it words, inside Gold’s house, but I couldn’t post because the board was acting funny. 😥
The not so thin man isn’t Grumpy for sure, and the person ruled out Maurice even though he/she wasn’t familiar with his character. So I’m not sure who it is if it’s someone that’s been on the show before.
I’m going to rule out it being a dwarf because besides Grumpy, they’ve never had any interaction with Rumple, and aside from Grumpy, right now I don’t think any of the other dwarves will get their own storyline because there’s so many other characters to focus on.
I guess it could be King George or Gepetto. I don’t consider them “fat”, but I didn’t really consider Lee Arenberg to be rather large either, yet I guess some people do. 😥 However, if the person knows what Grumpy looks like, then I’m guessing they would also know King George and Gepetto too.
So it’s likely a new character I guess maybe Smee since he would be “fat”, and it would make sense for him to be on an episode with Captain Hook/Beaman and interact with Gold.
Here’s the spoiler in question, that I copied from FanForums,
.@Phee wrote:
I googled it too when we got the casting call, and grumbled how the definition didn’t give us any clues. Now that you say it’s similar to “Miller” though, maybe it is a clue that she’s part of Rumple’s story. He lost Milha’s child when Bae left, so was trying to replace him with a child from a family of millers. Bit of a stretch, but it’s all I’ve got. 😛
lol, well it’s not any more of a stretch than some of the theories that I have/had.
I don’t know what to think of Milha, yet. Googled the name, appears to be a mile/distance unit in Brazil. Ever time I see it, though, I think of ‘Miller’…don’t know why.
Why it makes sense that she is Rumple’s wife who abandoned her family for adventure and dashing pirates- I also wonder if there’s a connection to Regina’s story…Probably not!
Milha really does sound like Miller. I know that there’s theories floating around about Cora being Rumple’s ex, and him going after her and her daughter because of that, but I think those are very unlikely since Cora couldn’t be that old, I would think. However, it’s possible that maybe Henry (Regina’s dad) or Cora were descended from Milha, so Rumple is getting his revenge indirectly.
That reminds me of another theory I just read last night about why they haven’t shown Milha yet, and that’s because Belle is going to be her due to some time traveling. While I don’t think that’s possible at all, I guess they could have Emilie de Ravin, Lana Parilla, or Barbara Hershey be Milha, so that we connect Milha with either Belle or the Mills family. It seems too cheesy though even for this show to have Belle, Regina, or Cora be a double or almost double for Rumple’s ex, and I don’t think they would have gone to the trouble of a casting call for Milha if they were going to go that route. I thought I would throw the theory out there though just in case that’s why they’re being so secretive about who she is.
