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Awesome news. I’ll delete my thread. I figured that they would too after her pilot wasn’t picked up, but I’m glad that there’s finally confirmation on it.
[adrotate group="5"]@Beauty & the Beast wrote:
If the Blue Fairy is in fact good and pure, then the writers need to do a better job at demonstrating that. Her agreement with Gepetto was blantantly wrong. At least Gepetto was trying to protect his son. What was the Blue Fairy fighting for? I don’t buy that Gepetto was the only one who could have built that wardrobe. She could have easily found another person to do it.
That’s a good point. They do need to do a better job of demonstrating whether she’s really “good” or not because I betting the Charmings aren’t going to be too happy when they finally find out about her leaving out crucial information about the wardrobe and how many could actually fit in. Also, I agree why did it have to be Gepetto that did it. Maybe it’s just a plot hole, but since she’s magical why couldn’t she make a wardrobe or just get someone else to do it.
Wait, scratch that. Cinderella caught Rumpel, didn’t she? Oh, nevermind then. But I’d still like to know if the Charmings know who the real the creator of the curse is. Because if they don’t, they’ll just keep going after Regina while Rumpel continues to work in the background undetected.
I never thought about that before either, but it does seem like she left out vital information again because she never told anyone that she knows who was really behind the Curse either because she feels guilty for her part in it perhaps or because she has another motive. Not saying that it could have been stopped if everyone had known that it was really Rumple who was behind it, but everyone on the war council should have been privy to that information, imo.
@obisgirl wrote:
@Mike wrote:
To me, it appeared that certain events and actions by certain characters in FTL ran parallel to similar events or actions in SB. A neat way of connecting the storylines in both worlds. Which leads me to a theory…
For season two, I believe one of the major themes for the season will be the arrival of magic in SB, and the disappearing of magic in FTL. I’m not suggesting that the magic in FTL moved to SB, but that magic in FTL was, and had been, disappearing over time.
Luv it, luv this theory. Makes a lot of sense too.
Yes, I can’t believed I missed this topic until now because after the back to back episodes of The Stranger and The Return, I was wondering if FLT was in fact a dying place because Bae happened to get the last magic bean and the Charming clan was suppose to use a wardrobe made from the last type of magic tree.
I thought that in “Dreamy”, the other fairy told Nova to be careful with the fairy dust because that was all that they had for the year, which I thought was weird, because I would think it would just be something that never ran out it, it was just always there because of the magic of FTL. Maybe we’ll find out more when we find out about the diamond that Grumpy stole and got imprisoned for since I’m still confused about the backstory on all of that.
Also, I love the idea that one of the parallels that the show will do to FLT land besides rebellion in both worlds will be showing how one world was losing its magic while this new world is gaining its magic.
Plus, it does set up the Blue Fairy to eventually be an obstacle later on down the road because they might have to do more than have every season be Regina and Rumple be the Big Bads. While I don’t think she’s “evil” like a Regina character at least right now who acts without thinking most of the time in her own interest, I do wonder at times if she has her own agenda like Rumple’s where her intentions are technically “good,” but how she achieved her end goal was not. I’ve been thinking about all the information that she’s withheld either by accident and wonder that if she does have some kind of master plan, I wonder if Baelfire might be connected with revealing that especially if he finds out that all his dad needed was true love’s kiss to be cured because he might be pretty pissed off and start wondering about the BF’s true motives once he finds that out.
@TheDarkOne wrote:
I think a large chunk of the information that fans have gathered as “evidencce” that Bae is Henry’s father are quotes from the creators themselves. There is no solid evidence that Bae is the father, and yet, I can’t help but think that’s exactly what’s going to happen. Even though my only evidence are a few ambiguous quotes, the whole Baelfire=firefighter thing, and the fact that Bae was sent to a world without magic.
True right now there’s not a whole lot of solid evidence besides the quotes from the creators themselves that he is the father, but for me I just don’t think he can be anyone else. It would feel like a ret-con if there was another magical person besides the 3 that we know made it to our world before the Curse hit that happened to be Henry’s father. Then, if they go the other route and have the father be non-magical that doesn’t wouldn’t make sense to me either because I don’t even know if that person would be able to enter Storybrooke, and wouldn’t seem to fit the quote of being this big missing puzzle piece.
Of course, it’s definitely possible that they’re hyping it up way too much and Henry’s dad won’t be that important, but I trust them on this issue that it will be an “aha moment” for fans that don’t follow that show that closely like we do here.
I think a lot of people believe the theory because it’s just too coincidental. Why would the writers send Bae to our world? There were a ton, and I mean A TON of different explanations they could have come up with as to why Rumpel created the curse. And yet, they settled on this one. Once again, I know I’m just pulling theories out of thin air, but there’s just something about theory that feels…true. Out of all the theories about who could possibly be Henry’s father (August, Graham, Dr. Whale, even freaking Jefferson 😆 ) this is the only one that sounds right. But like I just said, the theories prior to this one were so laughably weak that any other theory could come along and smash it to pieces. 😆
Yes, I know a lot of people who hate the theory think that it’s too coincidental that Bae would end up being the father of Henry’s father, and while I can see why they would think so, for me it wouldn’t be coincidental because it is a show about fairy tales and not a non-fictional show, so obviously the show can fall back on some kind of reasoning like they were attracted to each other because they could sense that they were both magical or the Curse was a part of it or just fate that they happened to get together.
Also, it’s not like other things on this show couldn’t be considered too coincidental. Like what are the odds that the grandchild of Snow White and the child of the Savior would be adopted by the Evil Queen until we find out otherwise on how he was brought to Storybrooke. Or what are the odds that there was only one magic bean left and only one magic tree left, so that no one else could be brought to this world.
Would it be predictable? At this point, I guess for fans that really follow the show besides just watching it on tv, maybe, but like I posted before on this subject, I think the people that follow it on the Internet and try to predict everything that happens is probably a pretty small number compared to the casual viewers who probably would be surprised if Bae turns out to be Henry’s dad.
But I’m not going to lie, I really like the theory. I like the idea of Henry being the one thing that all the warring on this show factions have in common. He’d be connected to the Charmings, connected to Rumpel’s family, and also to Regina. I think it’s very beautiful. These three different sides can fight and argue all they want, but at the end of the day, they’ll all have to stop for Henry’s sake. I hope the writers revisit that theme in future seasons.
Yes, this is one of the major reasons that I love this theory and believe it will be true. Right now everyone that I think of as a major character in the show (Emma, Henry, Snow, Charming, Regina, and Rumple) are all related to one another in some way except Rumple which seems really odd because of him being the reason behind the Curse. The other main characters don’t have any reason to care about Bae right now, but if he’s Henry’s father and possibly Emma’s true love, then they have a reason to care about who Bae is. It would probably be one of the few times that Regina and the Charmings were on the same page because they’ll probably all be horrified.
Likewise, they would all have to be careful in what they do to each other, well mainly Regina and Rumple, because Henry would be connected to all of them. Right now Rumple hasn’t gone after the Charmings directly and seems to like them and kids well enough that I doubt he would actually turn against them as Regina has, but he did run away with the love potion before Henry was saved, which will make him look even worse if Henry is his grandson and someone happens to mention that to Bae whenever he shows up in Storybrooke. I like to think Rumple knew all along that Henry was going to be okay, but there’s no proof that he did, so that could be something else that he comes to regret later on.
Further, I wonder if Bae did have doubts about his feelings for Emma, assuming that’s why he might have disappeared in the first place, because maybe he was afraid that his feeling weren’t real but were was all due to his father and the Curse. Or maybe that will be an issue explored later on with either Bae and/or Emma, which for me would be very interesting because without the Curse, they likely would never have had the opportunity to meet because of the time difference between them in their own world. So if does turn out to be true love, which I think it will be, then there was actually good that came out of the Curse because it lead Bae and Emma to each other and resulted in Henry who will probably help unite everyone in some way.
If Henry’s father wasn’t Bae, while I’m sure I would still enjoy the show, right now I believe that there’s just a lot more drama and story lines that can be written if Henry’s father is Bae, then if he’s not.
I also like the idea of Emma and Bae being orphans together. For all we know, Bae could have popped out the vortex around the same time Emma was 14. I could easily see them being drawn to each other due to their tragic backgrounds. They were both parentless, from Fairytale land and are directly conencted to the curse. Baelfire being the inspiration and reasoning for the curse and Emma being it’s ender. I like the poetry of it all. 😀
Yes, this is another reason that I like their relationship or at least potential relationship. He was the reason the Curse was created, and she was put into the Curse to help break it. Likewise, they do have many things in common especially both of them being original characters thought up by the writers that happen to be the offspring of famous fairy tale characters that the audience is already aware of.
@sjm wrote:
updated!
I was rewatching on a European connection and heard MM say that she had given the book to Henry about a month ago. So it isn’t like he had it a long time. I am just wondering how he made all the connections that Emma is SW’s daughter makes sense from the book, but how did he know his mom was Emma, and how did he figure she was SW’s daughter, and how did he connect the dots to figure out that the town, was cursed and his adopting mom, an evil queen, etc.? And why would Regina adopt someone knowing they would grow up while everyone else in town remains in a stasis? I mean it would be rather short-sighted on her part.
I don’t have any answers for the other questions except I guess it’s just magic. 😀 I just hope they’re answered though and not abandoned when we get new questions next season.
As for Regina though, I think it just fits her personality that she often does things without thinking if it benefits her right away. So she was like one of those teens like on Montel or was it Maury where they think having a baby will solve all of their problems until they’re forced to take care of a baby. I think she thought that a child would fill the void in her heart but didn’t realize that one day the child might start questioning what was going on in Storybrooke.
(OT: Am I the only weird person that thinks about The Maury Povich Show when wondering how OUaT is going to reveal Emma’s baby daddy?
Maury: “The results are in, and Baelfire, you are the father of Emma’s baby.”)
I guess I must still be asleep because I didn’t notice that this was just for SB and not overall. I would have voted Rumple, because I don’t really like any of the guy’s hair except maybe Henry’s in SB.
If it was overall, I would have voted for Baelfire just because his fluffy hair made him look so adorable.
@Josephine wrote:
I was really confused about this poll until I realized it was the FTL version and the other was Storybrooke.
I picked the Blue Fairy because of her curly hair. I have major curl envy. Mine is stick straight without a curl or wave in sight. My dad used to get me to eat my crusts off my bread because he said it would make my hair curly. It didn’t. 😕 I guess you always want what you don’t have because I’ve had people tell me they’d rather have my stick straight hair while I rather have a messy crop of curls.
Aw, I didn’t get that until after I voted either because I love how they gave Emma, Princess hair. So for FTL, I guess I would vote Belle.
@Clockwatcher wrote:
We’ve been talking about a lot of connections between the characters, and how they seem to know random information, and what I’m seeing it lead back to is the Story Book.
We know everything we know because of the books, which means we know even more than probably most individual characters. But there’s at least one person who knows more than us- the writer of the story book. Someone wrote it, someone who may have the upper hand.
so who do you think it is?This is a very tough question because no one seems quite right yet.
1. August
Pros: He did have the special typewriter and was able to add to the book.
Cons: Why would he have left out Rumple’s story, assuming Rumple’s story isn’t in there, since this hasn’t been cleared up yet. More importantly, I’m not sure why he would write the book, somehow get it to Storybrooke and to Henry, but not be more aware that time was running out on him being turned back into a wooden boy since I think he only started worrying when Emma decided to stay in Storybrooke.2. Baelfire
Pros: Someone had to tell August about the book and what kind of typewriter to use for him to add things to it, and since I think it’s likely that Bae told August about the dagger, I think it’s possible that Bae also told August about the book. This could be why Rumple’s story is left out since Bae may want to make sure that no one outside of Rumple, August, and the Blue Fairy are aware of what happened.
Cons: I’m not sure at this point how Bae would have known everyone’s story since he came before most everyone. I still voted for him though because I think he did meet with August that he has been planning something behind the scenes, I’m just not sure to what extent though.3. Belle
Pros: I can’t really think of any now.
Cons: She’s never been connected to the book at all, and since she’s been locked up in Storybrooke for 28 years and who knows how long before that in the Enchanted Forest, I’m not sure she would have had any time to have been able to do that.4. Blue Fairy
Pros: I like the theory that since the book is a fairy tale that a fairy or perhaps a collection of fairies wrote it, which might be what the preparations that the Blue Fairy was referring to before the Curse hit. It’s also plausible that August was telling the truth and that she was the one behind telling him about Rumple’s dagger.
Cons: If Rumple isn’t in the book, it’s unlikely that she would have left him out imo. More importantly, I don’t think there’s been any indication that she is some kind of mastermind that would make sure that Mary Margaret would get the book to Henry. Has she made some questionable decisions, most definitely, but again, I do think that she got her memories back along with everyone else, so I don’t think she was the writer of the book.5. Jefferson
Pros: By spying on the town for so long and from working with Regina, he would probably know everyone’s story pretty well.
Cons: I think the producers were surprised by how popular his character was going to be with fans, so while they may have planned for the character to be recurring, I don’t think they had any major plans like him being the writer of the book. Also, I think if he were the author, he would have just told Emma that because I don’t think he would have reason to hide it at that point.6. Queen of Hearts
Pros: None that I can think of.
Cons: While I won’t be surprised to find out that she’s Cora, or at least have her come back to settle her unfinished business with Regina, I don’t see how she could be connected to the book and to Henry at this point.7. Regina
Pros: None that I can think of.
Cons: If she had wrote the book, I think it would look more like this version, http://ouatv1.blogspot.com/2012/02/once-upon-time-book-as-told-by-regina.html. 😆8. Rumple
Pros: He would certainly know everyone’s story and this might also explain why he was collecting names in “That Still Small Voice.” He’s almost always plays everyone and rarely gets played, so he would certainly be cunning enough to make sure that Henry received the book and start noticing that things were not right in Storybrooke. Plus, it explains why his story might not be in the book.
Cons: Since the producers have stated that he didn’t get his memory back until Emma said her name to him, I don’t think he was the one behind getting the book to Mary Margaret to make sure Henry would get it.8. Other
Pros: It could be possible that the book came about as a result of the Curse somehow just to ensure that Henry would bring Emma back by her 28th birthday.
Cons: I think it was a person outside of Storybrooke that was behind the book otherwise August wouldn’t have known how to add pages to it.
