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I thought the same thing, about Belle and Mr. Gold’s car. Then I remembered that in episode 6, when David is lost and goes to Gold asking how to get to the t(r)oll bridge, Mr. Golds tells him about that trail just 2 blocks away from his shop. So maybe the well wasn’t *that* far if they followed that trail. Because, like you said, poor Belle wouldn’t be able to walk a long distance and I don’t think he could do it either, with his bad knee and all. Just a thought.

And PriceofMagic, thanks for the link to that interview, I found it very interesting. Everything they said about Belle made me think about a lot of possibilities.

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@Josephine wrote:

Part of me also thinks maybe there is a grain of truth in what Regina said of Belle returning and being ostracized by her people. […] Seeing as how Belle lived months with Rumple, people would assume and believe she was his mistress, no matter what the real truth was. If she had made it home and talked about Rumple is any way but as a monster, they would believe he enchanted her, used her, and discarded her. […] We keep thinking that Regina kidnapped Belle, but what if Moe literally handed Belle to her after she returned. The Queen can be manipulative, what if she convinced Maurice that she had the girl’s best interests at heart and knew how to “cure” her.

I’ve thought about all of that, too and I agree with you. I’m sure Regina knew how much Belle meant to Rumple. Belle was, actually, his weakness. Of course Regina would want Belle. She surely thought she could play the Belle card when things were complicated. That is why I think she went to see Belle after visiting Gold at the Sheriff’s office. She knew then how much Mr. Gold was willing to do and sacrifice just to have his cup back. Now she knew how much he’d be willing to do to get Belle’s back. Thankfully things happened differently.

But yeah, I think when Belle returned to her town, people might have been seeing her as someone who actually sold her soul to the Devil. Someone they couldn’t trust. What if she came back just to do the Beast’s dirty work in the town? I can totally see that, considering how things were then. I think Regina was telling some truth to Rumple’s. I’m not sure if Belle was actually tortured by the clerics and all, but I see perfectly possible that she was ostracized by the people… even maybe from her father.

Then again, those are just thoughts. We have to wait and see what happens. But it’s fun to come up with theories and all. 🙂

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PriceofMagic, as usual I agree completely with you. Regina was delighted to tell Rumple all about what happened to Belle. She enjoys every word, every second. And Rumple´s reactions are just painful to watch (what a great actor is RC! He says so much without saying a single word!). And yeah, I guess having Rumple saying Belle’s name outloud was a way to open the wound, preparing him for what was coming.

As for how Regina knew who Belle was, she seems to be always informed of what’s going on with Rumple. She as ears and eyes everywhere. And I’m sure that the gossip about Rumple taking Sir Maurice’s daughter reached her ears very quickly. I’m sure she was spying on the Dark Castle, just waiting for the chance… and that one day Belle came out, she was informed and well… the rest is history.

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Here’s another question: why do you think Regina wanted Rumple to tell her the name of Belle, at the end of Skin Deep? I know names have power. And Regina is a very smart woman, I’m pretty sure she knew exactly who Belle was and what was her name. Yet she made Rumple tell her. What do you make of this?

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Just a question I’ve been wondering for a while: when and why do you think Rumple started to use the chipped cup as his personal teacup? I mean, after all it was just a cup… there were others.

And while we are at it, do you think that’s a cup they actually shared? Because Belle has it with her in the dungeon.

I’d think she was using that cup because she kind of felt guilty for breaking it. And after seeing her using it all the time, he became fond of it. I don’t know. What do you think?

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@AntBee wrote:

Not that he didn’t have his own motives for helping them, but still that irritates me that even when he wasn’t involved in trying to make the “good guys” go to him, they still do, then he helps them, and then they treat him like dirt afterwards when no one forced them to go to him for help.

My thoughts exactly. It had always bothered me, too.
It doesn’t make any sense to me either that they wanted to lock him up, except perhaps that after Regina threatened them during their wedding, they were nervous and scared and wanted to put Rumple away to prevent him from helping Regina with her curse. I don’t know.

Emma has never really had any friends besides Snow, and they’re going to have adjust to being mother and daughter, not to mention everything else on her plate, so I’m not sure how likely a friendship, at least this season, is between her and Belle either since she’s probably still pissed off at Rumple for running off with the potion while Henry was dying.

For some reason I can’t imagine Emma being friends with Belle. I think she might treat her well, but I don’t think they’d be friends. For some reason I can picture Belle being friends with Snow instead… eventually and perhaps thanks to Grumpy.

I want her and Henry to end up becoming friends too, and Henry finding out about Bae, especially if Bae is his dad, through his friendship with Belle. I’m not sure how likely the possibility now, but maybe they’ll end up bonding over his book or something.

I’d LOVE that. The image of Belle and Henry being friends is sweet and tender and it seems to me Mr. Gold has always had some kind of sympathy for the little guy. So yeah, I can see that happening and I think it’d be good for Belle.

Now I think Mr. Gold will want to make sure Belle has a comfortable life, after spending only God knows how many years in prison. Not only the 28 SB years but the previous ones in FTL.

I was thinking the other day, after she left the Dark Castle, all the Snow/Charming story was yet to happen, right? And then came the Royal Wedding, then Rumple made the deal with Cinderella, after that he was put away and Snow’s pregnancy came along… so I was thinking that about 3-5 years happened between Belle leaving the Dark Castle and the curse taking place. So I was considering that must’ve been the time she was locked up in Regina’s dungeons or whatever. Maybe I’m not doing my math in the right way… what do you guys think?

I think now Mr. Gold/Rumple really want to make it up to her, for all those years of loneliness, pain and fear. Considering that right now Belle pretty much has nothing but the clothes she has on (stolen jacket even).

I think it’s so sweet to see how gentle he is with her in the season’s finale. The way he holds her face after he tells her he loves her, the tone of his voice. And… maybe it’s just me, but in that scene when he says: “There’ll be time for that… there’ll be time for everything, but first…” He makes a pause and the way he looks at her, it’s almost as if he wanted to kiss her right there. His eyes seem to go from her eyes to her lips and back to her eyes before he finishes with his: “There’s something I must do”.

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Your ideas and theories are very interesting.

I think at some level many of the SB residents have been outcasts in the past. While I don’t think they’d accept Belle and her relationship with Mr. Gold at first, I think eventually they’ll understand that she’s a good person and they’ll accept her in their community.

I pretty much think that, at some point, Belle is going to be the one holding Rumple’s reins, so to speak. People would trust her with talking some sense into Rumple. I think she could become important as some kind of diplomat person between the people of SB and Mr. Gold. And I also believe Belle is going to try hard to make other people see that Rumple is not the villain they think he is. She’s going to be some sort of bridge and hopefully measure Rumple’s actions in a good way. And somehow I can also imagine Belle making hers Rumple’s quest to find Bae.

I keep thinking, before being Rumple’s lover, she’s his friend… pretty much the only true friend he’s ever had. I think that is going to be good for Rumple’s. He doesn’t have to fight his battles alone anymore.

But I definitely think it’s going to be an awkward start for Belle in Storybrooke, but she’ll fit in. I have no doubts about it.

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@PriceofMagic wrote:

Thank you 🙂 Rumple and Belle are my favourite couple on the show and I can’t wait for season 2. I’m especially looking forward to the part where Emma sees Belle and realises that she was the “her” that Rumple was beating Moe French over.

They are my favorite couple, too. And I can’t wait for the part where Charming sees Belle and realizes that she was the “brief flicker of light amidst an ocean of darkness” that Rumple told him about. I can’t wait for Belle to find the chipped cup, either. Season 2 is going to be a real joyride. 😀

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@PriceofMagic wrote:

Mr Gold actually hugged her first back in the shop when she didn’t have her memory and she was confused by it all. When they were walking through the woods Gold was way in front of Belle and didn’t even look at her until she said his name. Perhaps he was embarassed that he went for the hug and Belle was all “who are you?” so he backed off from her both physically and emotionally to protect himself. When she said “I remember” he didn’t make any move towards her until she said “I love you”. After he admits he loves her and they hug, he’s the more touchy feely one in contrast to Skin Deep. He touches her face and puts his arm around her when they’re stood at the well.

You have a very good point. I mean, even if Mr. Gold hugged Belle first (and even if August also hugged him days before), I think Belle’s hug took was very meaningful because it was sincere (August’s wasn’t) and it was reciprocated (the first hug in the shop wasn’t).

But you know, I completely agree with you. He might’ve been embarassed and backed off. I never thought of it, but it makes sense. And that’s right, he’s been the touchy feely one now, for a change.

It always nice to read your comments. You have a very deep insight. 🙂

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@Josephine wrote:

It’s funny rewatching “Skin Deep” because he’s always suprised by her, whether it’s her taking down his curtains or chasing him around his table. She was actually quite forward.

That scene of Belle chasing him around the table ALWAYS makes me laugh. 😆
Always!

I just can imagine Belle chasing him like that around his castle all the time. Just the thought of it is funny. He’d be always watching his back around her. 😆

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