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I hope it’s not that long red jacket. I don’t like it. Looks like a Bellhop (that’s what their called right) uniform. Why not stay with her red leather or get a new red leather jacket. It’s her cape! Gah!
Wasn’t it her shield or a symbol of her Walls™? Isn’t it supposed to be a bad thing? Is it relevant to 5B only?
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Bar FarerParticipantI don’t get why Colin has to lose his job just because Jennifer doesn’t want to continue. He’ll stay regardless.
No he won’t because it’s pointless to have Hook alone especially if him and Emma are married. Unless you’re suggesting Emma is just randomly off screen or something after they’re married of all things. It’s the same with Emilie or Josh. They would not continue if their characters better half wouldn’t. It’s not like Colin needs the money. He and the rest of the cast will be banking over ten months because of con appearances and yes cons really do make actors a lot of money.
You are looking at it as “what makes sense for the story” and you shouldn’t. Colin is a separate person, he isn’t tied to Jennifer. She can do what she wants and he can do what he wants, and honestly, they don’t really care about the story or the characters anymore at this point.
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Bar FarerParticipantI don’t get why Colin has to lose his job just because Jennifer doesn’t want to continue. He’ll stay regardless.
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Bar FarerParticipantIt goes with the idea that Regina was the one who made Snow believe in HOPE™ because she made her life miserable.
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January 28, 2017 at 11:48 am in reply to: Digitalspy (UK) 26/01 – Robert Carlyle on Once contract ending #332882Bar FarerParticipantIt is hard to even know if the writers are actually hinting at something or if they are just having the characters say stuff that doesn’t really mean anything. This show used to have hints to things that could be figured out, but it has been a long time since that was true. Usually now, the writers forget what the characters have said and what happens is instead really straight forward.
They just have the characters say stuff they shouldn’t know. For instance, Arthur tells Guinevere that the dagger is part of Excalibur even though there is no reason he should know it or the reason wasn’t shown. They usually use stuff when the plot needs it and then forget about it, like the sorcerer’s mansion in the storybrooke. I find it futile to try and pick those things up because in the end they won’t mean anything, ther won’t be a satisfying conclusion and we will get only twists like the black fairy is Rumple’s mother (how did we not see that twist, that was never forshadowed or never had any hints or clues, coming?!?)
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January 27, 2017 at 10:40 am in reply to: Digitalspy (UK) 26/01 – Robert Carlyle on Once contract ending #332858Bar FarerParticipantHope is supposed to be for “humanity” as a whole, the unimportant characters that are in the background mostly as well as for our beloved, dare I say fan favorite, heroes. What hope was there for Neal or Robin? What hope was there for Will and Ana? What hope was there for Guinevere? What hope was there for Auntie Em? If the only hope that is important is for Emma to only be with her boyfriend by the end, then the show is not about hope, and I would even argue that Emma sacrificing her life for the lives of all the people of Storybrooke, for their happy ending, then it is a much hopeful message than anything they have been doing on the show since season 3.
But that’s so unfair. Again, people die. Will and Ana were not on OUAT. So I can’t speak of their relationship. Guinevere, well, the actress’s availability hit a snag so they couldn’t finish off her character. That’s not contradicting their message. That’s just bad luck and actor availability. We don’t know what they would have done with her had they had the actress to do something to end her arc. Auntie Em, we didn’t even know! We knew her for like one episode, but people die! Hades was a villain. He obliterates people. Otherwise he wouldn’t be a villain. You can’t take everyone who dies and say that the show has no hope because people die. The only thing I would give you here is the river of lost souls because they failed to really address whether people like Milah and Gaston would be completely obliterated in the river or if they had some sort of way to get out and move on, especially once Hades died. As far as Robin Hood goes, the writers have come out and said that Hades could have been lying about him being obliterated. And they even had Emma I believe say so to Regina to comfort her as well to officially put it as canon. And again, villains are going to kill people. That doesn’t mean they are not still pushing the message of hope. All the characters have been preaching this message to Regina since Robin died because bad things do happen, but you still need to have hope to get though that stuff. Now Neal, he died too, yes. But he also died somewhat of a hero. And he wasn’t in the UW because he moved on to a better place. So again, villains (Zelena) are going to kill people. But the message of hope remains in order to recover and move on and live your life with the people that are still here, that still care about you. That message has remained the same. To cherry pick characters who have died and say that they have contradicted themselves and the message of hope seems asinine to me and completely unfair.
“Preaching”..more like false propaganda.
Why is it that the good guys die without getting their happy ending, but bad people who have committed murder or rape (like Regina, Zelena, Rumple and Hook) gets to have their happy ending? Is it because they really deserve one or is it because they are fan favorites who have a very loud fanbase?
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January 27, 2017 at 9:49 am in reply to: Digitalspy (UK) 26/01 – Robert Carlyle on Once contract ending #332856Bar FarerParticipantThey have been contradicting “the message of hope” since season 3 though.
When have they contradicted this message? People die. It happens. But the message of hope I thought was practically the only thing that has remained consistent throughout the show.
Hope is supposed to be for “humanity” as a whole, the unimportant characters that are in the background mostly as well as for our beloved, dare I say fan favorite, heroes.
What hope was there for Neal or Robin?
What hope was there for Will and Ana?
What hope was there for Guinevere?
What hope was there for Auntie Em?
If the only hope that is important is for Emma to only be with her boyfriend by the end, then the show is not about hope, and I would even argue that Emma sacrificing her life for the lives of all the people of Storybrooke, for their happy ending, then it is a much hopeful message than anything they have been doing on the show since season 3.
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January 27, 2017 at 1:35 am in reply to: Digitalspy (UK) 26/01 – Robert Carlyle on Once contract ending #332852Bar FarerParticipantIt really does sound like so much is hinging on the contracts of some of the leads. Rebooting a show that has been established for several seasons, to the point where ratings are already dipping, with a new crew is extremely hard (look at current show Sleepy Hollow that had a pretty big shake up at the end of its third season—even though lead actor stayed on, it didn’t help the floundering ratings). I’m starting to seriously wonder if this whole “Gideon killing Emma” plot was really a precaution in case JMo doesn’t sign. If she doesn’t sign–Emma will die a Savior’s death and S7 is about recovering from that. If she does sign–Emma defeated fate and S7 is the big end to it all.
I don’t think they’ll kill Emma at all. They may pull a Vampire Diaries on her though. Like she’ll be whisked away to another land or cursed and S7 is about everybody trying to find her. I doubt that Emma is actually going to die. If she does die the show is dead. Killing her off will be fatal to the show, she’s the foundation of the show. Plus it would be absolutely contradicting the message of “hope” cause Emma deserves a happy ending more than anyone. TBH though I do believe JMO is definitely a lock for next season, we just have to see what happens. She definitely sounds a lot more hopeful than Bobby did. The show can survive without Rumple, the show cannot survive without Emma, period. Snowing, Hook, Henry, etc would not get a happy ending if Emma dies. It’s also cruel to dangle a CS engagement and then not follow through. These writers are stupid but they’re not that stupid IMO. Digitalspy also did not included JMO’s quotes about how she has no interest in abandoning the character and that she has hope for a S7.
They have been contradicting “the message of hope” since season 3 though.
In addition, I don’t undrstand the idea of “the show can’t survive”. It is pretty much probable that season 7 will be the last, with or without Emma.
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January 24, 2017 at 10:59 pm in reply to: TVLine Jan 22: A Musical Episode (Confirmed Feb 2) #332806Bar FarerParticipantJMO is IMO the one they have to get cause she’s the star of the show
Unless S7 is a complete different thing altogether. Like how Charmed introduced Billy and intended her to be the star of the show from then on. For all we know by the end of season 6, we could have a whole new cast of characters, following them on a whole new adventure, with only occasional appearences by the ones we originally saw. But I don’t think that is the case UNLESS they are doing a flashforward where we see Henry all grown up going on adventures with grown up Baby Snowflake and grownup Gideon. I think that could be a show. I’d probably watch.
We know how well that works out for the show…see Scrubs S9.
But A&E don’t care about that, they don’t care about what makes sense for the story or the characters. If they can continue the show even without Jennifer, they will. They get more money by doing season 7 instead of just ending it with 6. Moreover, reealistically, and I hope that A&E realize that, that season 7 will probably be the final season with or without Jennifer, so ratings or fans or shippers don’t factor into decision about how to handle the show. In the end, A&E will do what is most beneficial for A&E.
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Bar FarerParticipantEverything that Jennifer said in that article implied that she wants off the show, but she might be willing to stay one more season if it is the last. Jennifer is done with this show. She wants to do other projects. She doesn’t like her storyline and the inconsistencies on the show. She wants to direct. She said she is glad she did Ouat because it got her into directing. Also, if there really is going to be a big change, which that could just be all talk because contracts are up and the actors are trying to get more money, but if there is going to actually be a big change on the show then the only thing that would cause a big change is either Jennifer or Lana leaving the show. Lana doesn’t seem to want to leave and doesn’t do other projects really, so it stands to reason, that it is Jennifer who is the one who might leave.
Don’t vocalize your thoughts and assume Jennifer thinks the same way as you do. Spoiler alert, she doesn’t.
While I agree that Jennifer didn’t explicitly say that she wants to leave, she didn’t exactly say that she wants to stay. She said that she’s waiting for abc’s decision, about the show, then for seeing what kind of direction A&E want to take the show in season 7 and then decide whether to renew her contract or not. If she had been definitely in then she would have said that if abc renewed the show then she would continue, but she didn’t say that, did she?
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