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You know, if it’s WW vs. Regina is about Envy, then you have to ask why WW would be envious of Regina. My guess is that Cora is her mother……..probably she eventually had another child with whomever and got rid of her, to focus all her energies on Regina. Maybe she even sent WW to another land, almost like Snowing sent Emma (though obviously Snowing had far different intentions) and the WW has spent years following Regina and wanting revenge for being 2nd best. I don’t know who the father would be…… maybe Cora did spend time in Oz, had an affair with whomever, and just abandoned the future WW with the father to go off to Wonderland or back to FTL, wherever she raised Regina.
[adrotate group="5"]CrownedWithLaurels wrote: As you see with Rumple, who’s a very difficult man to love, he was haunted a lot.
Um. No. He *thinks* he is a very difficult man to love because people get walking out on him. But in actually, he’s very easy to love. Milah did love him once. Cora did love him once. Belle loves him always. Nealfire loves him always.
Well I don’t think Eddy was using the haunted part to explain why he’s difficult a lot……..He’s just saying that Gold was haunted by his past.
That said, I’m tired of this meme about Gold being difficult to love – they (Eddy) say it all the time. Also, love isn’t supposed to be “easy”.
IMO, when they say he’s “difficult to love”, I’m fairly certain they’re referring to people who truly would love Rumple/Gold (the man) post- curse (Neal/Belle). It’s just really a bland comment and doesn’t explain why they think he’s difficult at all. Difficult because he finds it hard to accept love based on his past? Who can blame him? Anyway, I resent that because they spit out these words that Gold has said as if it’s the truth. I mean, Gold has said he’s a coward, many times……and I have never believed that. Just because he says it doesn’t mean it’s true….He HATES himself and so you can’t believe his opinion about himself.
betsypaige24 wrote: Actors not tweeting doesn’t mean they don’t respect fans; they do have their lives, whether they are parents or not. Bobby never tweets anymore – but he certainly loves and respects his fans – and that’s just an example. Actors/celebrities don’t owe their fans anything other than to be polite ……….
I completely agree. I think the whole cast as well as A and E have gone out of their way to be nice to the fans. Colin even came out to meet fans and take photos last week after his shoot at the docks. What more can you ask of him? They don’t owe us any more of their time. Given that we’ve seen BTS photos of them working well into the night for shoots just goes to show how crazy their schedules are.
Exactly…..they really work extremely hard. I think that, unfortunately, as celebrities give more of themselves (let’s not forget it’s because they WANT to), fans try and take as much……it’s not fair, it’s not right.
betsypaige24 wrote: Hmm, well I don’t know if I think they think he’s changed, but I think he has – and we saw that through S2 and NL until that culmination in Going Home. I will conceded that Eddy is explained how haunted Gold was, but I didn’t see any props for his sacrifice, just that he did the only thing available to him.
Rumple may have tried every avenue available to him to avoid death like trying to murder Henry in 2×21 (it’s his “nasty habit of self-preservation”), but by 3×4, Rumple was truly ready to face his fears. By 3×8 he walked into Skull Rock to face his dear old dad, thinking he’d found a way to defeat PP with Pandora’s Box, only to be ticked and trapped himself. But by 3×11 when PP locked him in the anti-magic cuff, Rumple realized he had but two options: cut of his hand to get back his magic or face his destiny like a man without any magic by stabbing PP and himself with his dagger. The old Rumple turned to self-mutilation to get out of the Ogres War and relied on magic to save Baelfire. The new Rumple forwent self-mutilation and magic to finally face that prophesy that “the boy” (aka Peter Pan) would be his undoing.
I agree with that, and I hope Adam and Eddy agree…….I was just so proud of him. He had his Belle and his son in his life – had it all, really – but their lives have always been more important than his. If he had used magic, the fight with Pan would have continued indefinitely – and Belle/Bae probably would have died regardless. Ugh, he was so brave, knowing that the only way to end the reign of terror was to sacrifice himself…… He made the decision and his conviction in everything he said to Pan (I don’t need magic, etc..) was beautiful. When Gold told Pan Daddy that he was ready (to die basically) and thrust that dagger into Pan Daddy’s back, I thought that was the most extraordinary thing. I just love him so much…..
I can’t wait to see Belle and Bae bond……aside from needing to share their grief, they can give each other what the other needs. Bae can discover the man he has never known, the man who has fought so hard to overcome his curse and his self-loathing to become the best version of himself (better than any version even that had existed), the man Belle has always seen. Belle can get to know the man Gold was pre-curse, the spinner, the adoring father……and perhaps what led him to curse himself. Plus, I think Bae needs a maternal figure in his life…….
PriceofMagic wrote: I prefer Charming over Snow. Season 3 Snow annoyed me, particularly in Ariel. I think it could be Hook that dies. A&E are on set and shows do have a habit of doing a cliffhanger death scene where characters receive a fatal wound in one episode and then die in the next.
I have had that vibe ever since Colin almost completely abandoned his twitter page in December. To say he isn’t tweeting because he is a busy daddy doesn’t fly very high, considering he isn’t the only parent in the cast, and yet somehow other cast members still find the time to respect their fans (i.e. Jennifer Morrison). Colin’s page has in my opinon, all the markings of a disconnect. That is one major reason why if it is Hook, I believe this was the actor’s choice. I know about the pictures, spoilers, etc., in addition to the comment yo TV Guide that we’ll learn more about Hook and Pan next year. Aside from nieve assumptions, we can’t know how these things will manifest, so I can’t allow myself to let rose-colored glasses tint reality. I can take a hint, and much as I love Hook, Colin couldn’t seem less interested. It says 1000 words.
Wait, I’m sorry, but this? I strongly disagree.
Actors not tweeting doesn’t mean they don’t respect fans; they do have their lives, whether they are parents or not. Bobby never tweets anymore – but he certainly loves and respects his fans – and that’s just an example. Actors/celebrities don’t owe their fans anything other than to be polite ……….
As to an earlier post, I don’t think A/E would at all mislead Matt Mitovich – for one thing, they do have a good relationship with Matt, but for another, it’s really bad publicity to mislead the press. When they say a major character, I do believe it’s a major character/regular…..it’s not Ruby.
We won’t know for sure until after whether it truly was storyline related or A/E were protecting an actor who wanted to leave. The fact that this is so closed, that basically the character/actor won’t have any possiblity of returning makes me think the latter
Eddy Kitsis: As you see with Rumple, who’s a very difficult man to love, he was haunted a lot. It was very hard for him to make the right decision, and he tried to exhaust every other option until sacrificing himself was the only one left”.
That is why I believe Rumple’s sacrifice won’t be in vain. Neal and Belle will survive. And I think Rumple will ultimately survive to get his happy ending, too.
betsypaige24 wrote: PLUS, they don’t seem to think that Gold has changed – for god’s sake, they even tried to denigrate his sacrifice
I respecfully disagree. I think Eddy is saying that Rumple has changed, as demonstrated by his self-sacrifice to save his family.
Ok, I’ve calmed down.
Hmm, well I don’t know if I think they think he’s changed, but I think he has – and we saw that through S2 and NL until that culmination in Going Home. I will conceded that Eddy is explained how haunted Gold was, but I didn’t see any props for his sacrifice, just that he did the only thing available to him.
Now they did add the below, so perhaps the interview IS just about 3B. I don’t know how they’re going to get around the “dead is dead” thing, but ONE positive thing that I agree with you: they ARE going to get their HEA. If they spent a lot of time discussing Rumbelle, that is a good thing……..I think, lol?
@Betsypaige24 Lets just say sacrificing his life was real and we will see the consequences of that.
I swear, if I had a nickle for every time that Eddy (or Adam, but mostly Eddy) says that Gold is a “difficult man to love”, I’d be a millionaire. Ugh, enough.
So Pan was his undoing, but I still don’t really understand this. For one thing, the idea of sacrificing yourself is not an easy one for anyone, not just Gold. It’s not supposed to be easy – if it were easy, everyone would do it. I’m not even sure what Eddy means by the part in bold: Gold tried to save Henry in NL – it’s not his fault that Pan tricked him. He tried in SB as well – before Pan again tricked him. I know they created him, but I wish Adam and Eddy liked Gold more – especially Eddy, who alway implies the worst with him.
Stuff on Rumbelle (which really ticks me off and makes me even angrier at A/E). I can’t really post the tweets, but they said that A/E discussed why won’t give Rumbelle their HEA just yet. When I mentioned how ominous that sounded (though frankly no one is getting their HEA just yet) and referenced how they are always separated, that they never write them together, the response was thatThey set up that Rumple is “a difficult man to love”. They are honoring the story by making their relationship difficult.
That’s just so …………ugh. Rumbelle doesn’t even have a relationship – they’re NEVER together. It doesn’t make ANY sense, really; They have been separated by outside forces, not by Gold’s decisions. PLUS, they don’t seem to think that Gold has changed – for god’s sake, they even tried to denigrate his sacrifice
LOL I saw that before………the ELLE/Belle one is my favorite, but I’d subscribe to ALL the magazines based on the covers, lol
betsypaige24 wrote: Nothing about Belle or Gold or Rumbelle…….more of the usual, sigh. I like the idea of home, but boy is this frustrating
I think Belle is Rumple’s idea of home. Where she is now, home is. And I think one way or another, Belle will be the one to bring Rumple home. I’m going to hold out and say the wedding at the end of the season is theirs.
Oh I agree……..they are home in each other’s arms. I hate to always complain, I try to be positive, but …….it’s so hard when they’ve been separated so long and now this…….and we hear nothing about Gold (I know he’s supposed to be dead, so we can’t expect to hear anything about him). I get a bit overanxious about Belle and so when she’s not mentioned, especially when I’ve been overtired, I freak out.
I certainly hope Belle saves Gold – though I’d prefer if he saves himself, his love for her overcoming the power of the dagger. I don’t think they are getting married anytime soon, certainly not this year, mostly because if they have their usual brief reunion at the end of the season, there won’t be any time for them to plan a wedding and also because a Rumbelle wedding would be a quiet affair, with very few people in attendance. I can’t imagine they’d want anyone other than Neal and Henry there, lol…I hope that if they have a real reunion, that we get an engagement at least…..but of course that’s contingent upon the writers actually deciding to write for them as a couple.
I LOVE the idea of home and family and that raises a question: what IS family? Yeah the Charmings and Rumple are connected via Henry, and they’ve both referred to themselves as family, but they don’t exactly act like family, particularly the Charmings to Belle (and they treat Regina far better than they treat Gold). Family to me is about bonds of love whether or not there is any blood connection. That includes friends, certainly. I sort of see Rumbelle has being a small family unit with Bae – and Henry. Neither Gold nor Belle really have friends, maybe except for Archie – and Grumpy to a lesser extent.
“There’s no place like home”…………..Dorothy found that out in the Wizard of Oz. She had all she needed with her friends and family – and maybe this is what the 2nd half will be about?
betsypaige24 wrote: I’m confused….why would Barbara Hershey be filming ?
She’s not. She filmed for WL but that was for 111, several weeks ago now
Thanks!
LOL Love that photo….but it’s not that great a job, Adam!
