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betsypaige24 wrote: He could have been from a long time ago in the DC past…..possible Rumple turned him into a candle in a fit of pique. I admit tht Rumple does not seem the type to have a servant, especially since he could use magic to get himself whatever he wanted, but if he wanted someone in the DC just to “be” there, so he would know he wasn’t alone……I guess I could see it. That’s probably why he wanted Belle…though honestly it seems odd that if he was just looking for someone, anyone, to be a housekeeper, to occupy space in the DC, that he wouldn’t have found someone well before Belle. Maybe, despite himself, Rumple was looking for someone “just a bit more special” (as I think he put it to Maurice). Maybe, despite himself, he was looking for someone with a mind, someone who he could actually talk to IF he one day felt like it……..
IF Lumiere is in the DC Past and maybe Rumple turned him into a candlestick, then he would be in SB,right? and human again? Wonder where he would work.
Storybrooke Aromatherapy? That’s about the only sort of place I can think of that would hold a large stock of candles, lol
[adrotate group="5"]I’m sure she’s aware of that as well, RG, but still, I can’t believe she didn’t expect to work more than she has. The problem with her being tied to Gold is that they are never together, their stories are never together. So, while she’s tied to him, she’s never involved in stories with him. I hate to say this, I really do, but she is a plot device. Unlike some Belle fans, I’ve never had a problem with her being part of Gold’s storyline, furthering his redemption arc – I’ve found it beautiful and gorgeous how she loves and supports him, how her faith in him gives him faith in himself. The problem is that she’s stuffed in a hospital or otherwise disappears into some dark corner of SB until she’s needed. I don’t think Belle really needs to be a regular character, truthfully, and sometimes I wish she wasn’t, so I could just relax and not have any expectations. However, I could never wish for this because it would mean Emilie losing her job…..and no way would I root for that.
Remember when Belle was actually going to open the library? It would be nice if she would still end up doing that…….but I doubt it, lol.
I LOVE your idea……they should all go on a talk show…Jerry Springer? LOL with all the magic they can do, it would make the old days of throwing chairs seem like child’s play lol.
Tink and Ariel were great, and I love AriBelle friendship, but Pan was the only ever meant to have a deeper storyline, so ……….
The problem with ONCE, one of many, is that the premise is fabulous and it’s extremely tempting to want to use as a many characters as possible…..I really thought that season 3B would be about returning normalcy to SB and focusing on relationships. I would much rather have seen that than what we’re going to get
betsypaige24 wrote: His FIRST appearance? Hmm………but probably means nothing
I seem to recall that the casting information didn’t specify anything beyond one appearance. Probably nothing. I keep going back and forth about where Lumiere will be. If it’s Young!Belle then they aren’t using a younger actress but an aged-down Emilie. But that gets tricky with actors, though Emilie looks much younger than her 30yr old self anyway. So that leads me to believe that Lumiere is probably in the Dark One’s castle in the past. Which is odd because Belle said to Rumple in Skin Deep, “I think you were lonely.”
He could have been from a long time ago in the DC past…..possible Rumple turned him into a candle in a fit of pique. I admit tht Rumple does not seem the type to have a servant, especially since he could use magic to get himself whatever he wanted, but if he wanted someone in the DC just to “be” there, so he would know he wasn’t alone……I guess I could see it. That’s probably why he wanted Belle…though honestly it seems odd that if he was just looking for someone, anyone, to be a housekeeper, to occupy space in the DC, that he wouldn’t have found someone well before Belle. Maybe, despite himself, Rumple was looking for someone “just a bit more special” (as I think he put it to Maurice). Maybe, despite himself, he was looking for someone with a mind, someone who he could actually talk to IF he one day felt like it……..
That’s ok, we can agree to disagree. I just don’t think A/E like Belle, that won’t change. She gets the most pathetic amount of screen time ever and I do think that the only reason they brought her on is because she/Rumbelle were so popular. Emilie has even said she was only supposed to be in 1 episode.
I’m not asking for this to become the Belle show (RG, I know you know that I’m not pushing for that). There’s a middle ground between what Snowing has individually and basically zilch, which is what Belle has. I’m really surprised, honestly, that Emilie is ok with this arrangement. She’s an actor, she has to want to work; I assume she does want to work. If she’s happy, that’s great, but I do often wonder why she stays when most of her time is spent off-set NOT working. Jenna, Emilie is fantastic actress, just fantastic. Look at how incredible she is against Bobby – and that’s not easy. She can do anything – and frankly, IMO, she’s wasted on this show. At times I wish Emilie would quit and let the show try and work around her, if they were interested.
I admit, I’m a pessimist so take my comments with a huge grain of salt. They completely cut the family reunion scene in New Neverland; seriously? They took the drama out of it completely, with Belle acting like it was no big deal that Bae was alive and both acting like good friends already. I would love to see these two bond, but I just don’t see it. Between trying to win people over by using Oz and the WW and pushing Regina Hood, then with Emma/Hook, etc….well I just forsee Belle as getting her usual 5 minutes of screen time per half season (aside from her episode)
RG, I think not allowing Belle a few minutes to confront Regina and Hook is an utter disgrace; she doesn’t have to spend episodes harping on it, but she deserves to take back her life from them. They deserve to know what they did to her. It’s just one in a million different ways that Belle is treated like the invisible woman on the show.
I’m sorry, I’m not trying to bring people down……..I just adore Emilie, I adore Belle (Rumbelle is for another thread, lol) and it hurts to see them not get their due. Oh and RG, the toys off the shelf problem was an issue in S2, which they tried to rectify in S3……but I see that they haven’t learned their lesson. Rapunzel? WW? Many more characters in Oz? Not a promising sign.
LOL I don’t trust Adam and Eddy as far as I can throw them, so their “compelling new storytelling” does little for me except make me roll my eyes
I suspect Belle finds “Lumiere” in the Dark Castle given this:
http://www.entertainmentoutlook.com/2014/01/11/upon-time-lumiere-cast/
His FIRST appearance? Hmm………but probably means nothing
Today it’s been revealed who will play the iconic candelabra ‘Lumiere’ from Disney’s Beauty and the Beast, in the second part of the third series of Once Upon a Time. Lumiere or Lawrence as the character will be called will be played by Henri Lubatti (True Blood).
Lubatti will make his first appearance on the show in episode 3.15 “Quiet Minds”, which will be a Rumbelle – centric episode, featuring Emilie de Ravin as Belle and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin. It looks like we may be returning to Rumple’s castle in some flashback scenes, which will hopefully be linked to some present day Storybrooke events.The writers simply don’t care about Belle. They show it with the Charmings, they show it in how Belle doesn’t get to confront Hook or Regina and even with Gold. The wraith thing nothwithstanding, he knew she was drugged (see Lacey hospital scene), did nothing……and now because everything has happened lickety split, he’s probably forgotten that Belle was ever Lacey in the first place. Apparently he and Regina have made up (this was what was said, not in these exact words, in one spoiler that said that Regina would need a new enemy), so therefore even Gold doesn’t care about what she’s done. No doubt he’ll even have forgotten what Hook did to her.
Everything that’s been done to Belle has been minimized by Adam and EddyI don’t even need Gold to be actively going up against Regina, but I think it’s incredibly insulting to Belle that he’s “made up” with Regina when it wasn’t HE who was the injured party. Yeah, he was crushed by Belle’s “death”, but it was Belle who truly suffered. The fact that he’s not still angry with Regina about anything…….and probably not Hook………is annoying.
Asking for some more screen time is not asking a lot….. I’m not suggesting, nor is any Rumbelle fan that I know, that this become the Rumbelle show (though personally I think they COULD carry their own show, lol). I’m only asking for some happiness (even Snowing isn’t HAPPY HAPPY yet), but more importantly storylines where they are together and dealing with life’s issues. This has nothing to do with Snowing and everything to do with the fact that the writers ought to be able to keep a couple “together” and still come up with an interesting storyline. Not everything comes down to sex, lol…….though I’m sure they’d have a lot of it, lol.
Other characters do get their screen time…. Tinkerbell, for instance, has had far more interesting things to do in the short time she’s been on the show than Belle has. Then again, IMO, the writers don’t like Belle (the option of getting rid of her on their own, not of Emilie’s choice, doesn’t exist because that would infuriate fans). I won’t go into that here, maybe the Belle thread, though.
At this point, I’m “whatever” about a possible reunion. Rumbelle reunions, though at times beautiful, never live up to my hopes…..and they never last long. Adam and Eddy are aware of their massive fan base and still separate them constantly; I don’t expect that to change. It’s their show and they can do what they want, but it’s just so disappointing.
It’s hard for me to imagine that there are Once fans, or others, who have never seen the best Disney animated movie ever in the history of the company. Really? I think all of you that haven’t seen it should break down and give in. There is a reason it was nominated for Best Picture Oscar. It is simply brilliant and breathtaking and sweet and just the best Disney movie ever.
I might very well love it, but I doubt I’d find it the best……that’s just not me.
I purposely avoided it, yep. I never ever EVER had any desire to see it. I’m not a romantic at ALL. Yes I’ve shipped couples, but Rumbelle is the only couple ever who has inspired me to believe in true love – thanks to Bobby and Emilie. I have never, since I was a girl, cared about romance…..don’t like romance novels, don’t like “chick flicks”. When did it come out, 1991? I was 20 – had no interest in it……and never wanted to see it on Broadway. The only reason I would see it now is because I would probably adore Belle (she’s apparently “different” from everyone else and loves books, which is ME, lol) and also out of curiosity about parallels between the movie and ONCE.
betsypaige24 wrote: Who do you think he’ll be then? I hope not the lion……. I’d be fine if he’s not anyone from Oz. I don’t understand the point of that story……. I guess he’s going to lose his memory; how is he going to regain it, no matter who he is, and find his way back to SB?
I don’t think he’ll be anyone from Oz. I don’t think anyone outside of Regina will have any sort of connection to the Oz myth. I think Rumple’s storyline this season is more “getting back from wherever he landed and learning to be a non-magical man again” with help from Bae and Belle.
I hope that’s true…..that would be a good storyline, made even better if Belle actually gets something to do. I also want to see him, with Belle, dealing with being a mortal because that has huge ramifications. He’s going to die – like everyone else (he’s probably happy about that; most immortals on tv shows or in movies eventually get tired of life). He’s much older than Belle physically. I really need that to be explored. Anyhow, I love your theory and it begs the question of why even bother going to Oz in the first place? Is it really necessary ?
RumplesGirl wrote: *throws glitter in the air* Like what you like and don’t like what you don’t like.
I was a great supporter of RegalCat. Shame it ran into “difficulties”. OutlawQueen is starting to grow on me. I’m still not 100% shipping it (unlike RumBelle who are my OTP)but when trying to write fanfic, I’m starting to imagine scenarios involving Regina where Robin is present as her boyfriend/partner. I get what Betsy is trying to say about OutlawQueen. If it feels like it’s being shoved in your face, your immediate reaction is to go “I don’t like it”. (Sometimes it feels that way with CaptainSwan, no offence CSers). You want to see a relationship progress organically (Like RumBelle’s) rather than being told “Yeah, it’s true love, deal with it”. I want to see WHY Regina and Robin are supposedly true love, not just because the pixie dust said so.
That’s part of what I’m saying; I DO think it’s ridiculous that the show is telling us that they are TL instead of showing us. Who’s to say that they will click as actors or characters?
My one little comment, though, was really me just expressing frustration that we’re going to get FAR more Regina Hood than Rumbelle. I know, I have to accept the fact that Rumbelle will never get significant screen time, that A/E just don’t want to write them together (even though there could be a zillion different stories for them). I don’t know that I’ll ever be able to accept that, ufortunately. Even though I hate Regina, if I were satisfied with Rumbelle, I wouldn’t care about Regina Hood, I honestly wouldn’t.
