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ParticipantSo the opening scene in the Enchanted Forest WAS a flash forward of Henry and Lucy and not wish realm Henry after all? Well there goes that theory!
I don’t know that I like the idea of Henry having a child and not knowing about her or not taking care of her. He comes from such a big loving family! Emma was 17 and in jail and you can understand her desicions on some level, but why would Henry do it?
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ParticipantAgreed on all points with AKA.
I’ll miss Belle the most, both because she is and has always been my Disney Princess and because I love Rumple and want him to be happy and who knows how Belle will be written out or how soon. Will Rumbelle get to raise their baby together and then 15-20 years later something happens shortly before Lucy shows up at Henry’s door that separate them?
While I know I’ll miss Snow and Charming, I do agree that their story has been complete for a long time now and nothing more really needs to added other than the familiar tagline ‘…and they lived happily ever after’.
Belle’s story feels unfinished. They’ve never really known what to do with her and I’ve never understand why she was so hard to write for. Zelena’s story sort of feels finished with her giving up her magic and all, but her story felt rushed at the end and she didn’t get a lot of development either.
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ParticipantWell 15-20 years later Rumple should still look the same due to the Dark One, but Hook and Regina… who knows. I just hope they don’t put them under a sleeping curse to keep them young for season seven.
May 14, 2017 at 10:28 pm in reply to: 621/622 "The Final Battle, part 1 and 2"–Favorite/Least Favorite Moments #338604bibliophile
ParticipantHow does Henry forget he has a child? I just don’t see him being a one night stand type of guy. Then the whole what happened to my dad thing with the little girl. Weird!
Henry’s cursed I think. He lost that battle we saw in the Enchanted Forest and now Lucy’s looking for him, but he’s in our world, and doesn’t remember her.
I’m guessing, but I think maybe Lucy’s father is Wish Realm Henry and not our Henry at all. Lucy somehow found him and needs his help to break a curse and return to her ‘real’ father. It’s a early theory anyway.
As for the finale itself… there were moments I liked, but overall I thought the first half was too slow and as much as I loved seeing Rumple take out mummy dearest… it was a bit too easy.
Also there are the plot-hole/quibbles in far too great abundance like why did Gideon suddenly become a baby? Why did Belle need to sprain her ankle at that moment? Why did the realms start to disappear because Emma stopped believing when that was totally never a thing? How the blooming heck did Charming and Hook survive that fall? I’m sure there are more I’m passing over.
As for what I did like… I loved the ending montage. All the happy beginnings and especially that long awaited family dinner where everyone actually seemed to care about each other. I agree the Last Supper layout was a bit to much.
I’m actually kind of happy right now. Maybe this wasn’t the best episode of Once ever, but the ending left me all warm and fuzzy and I’m kind of looking forward to season seven now. Weirdly.
Let Once: The Next Generation begin!
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ParticipantI think maybe Lucy’s ‘real’ father is wish realm Henry and after he’s killed (or captured?) she somehow gets to Henry in our world to ask for his help.
Also whenever I hear the name Lucy all I can think of is Narnia.
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ParticipantWell I guess tonight’s the night. Whether we end up in the wish realm or in a time jump of some kind I just hope that we get some happiness and not all death and sorrow. Personally I’d like a nice montage of Rumple and Belle living happily ever after, maybe raising more kids, having grandkids, they could show a series of weddings between the kids of all our main characters and twist up the Once family tree some more (that would keep us all busy during the off-season!). Let everyone live happily and have all our departing characters dying at a ripe old age rather than being separated by magic or dying to save the town. Then they can hand wave up some reason for Hook and Regina to still be alive and young and of course Rumple remains immortal.
Please please please Once… don’t screw up this ending/new beginning!
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ParticipantHow about this for a season seven plot…
Baelfire is restored to life by Zeus (who owes Rumple a favor) he poofs to life in front of his father and immediately wants to know why he’d summon him back, ‘I was in heaven papa! I was happy!’ then Rumple tells him that Emma, Belle and Henry have been banished to another realm and are in terrible danger and he needs his help to save them because he now has no magic (ignoring the magical interference of Zeus when logically it should’ve been an easier favor to bring back his living loved ones than the dead one because ignoring logic makes the writing feel real at this point). Father and son team up to take down Black Fairy (or whoever) and get back to the ones they love.
Meanwhile Hook and Regina are trapped together in Wonderland (a chance to tie up some Wonderland loose ends) and as they team up to get home they slowly fall in love paving the way for Emma and Baelfire to get back together in the series finale for all the happy endings. THE END.
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ParticipantMad Hatter would be great!More Dr. Whale maybe?
Out of the unfinished business file: The Dragon, Lily/Maleficent, Will/Wonderland
Out of the dead file/raised by Zeus for plot reasons: I’d have loved more Baelfire (obviously), more Cruella, and more Graham (or at least having his death addressed in a realistic way).
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ParticipantI have no idea what the motivation of the black fairy is at all. Why does she need to fight Emma, why does she need a dark curse, if she wants Rumple and her to be a family why doesn’t she just bring Rumple,Gideon, and Belle to the dark realm they could release the kids and live happily ever after. We have no idea what her motivation is because like always we are rushing the ending.
This is the big problem with the plot now. I just don’t understand why The Black Fairy is doing any of this and I can see I’m not alone there. Why couldn’t they come up with some reasonable sounding nonsense like she has to kill Emma because she’s got some magic doohickie in her stomach that Blue Fairy hid there when she was in utero and Black Fairy wants to cut it out because that doohickie is the only way she can save Rumple from The Dark One curse that wouldn’t have happened if she hadn’t cut away his savior fate in the first place and she wants to save her boy through murder and mayhem (like any good mother) and then she tells Rumple this plan, then he tells Belle, then Belle tells Henry, then Henry tells Regina, then Regina tells Snow, then Snow tells Charming, then Snow and Charming tell Emma, then Emma asks Blue about it and she smacks herself on the head and says doh! and then she gives Emma a magic pill that makes her poop the stupid doohickie out and then everyone can live happily ever after. Once they wash the doohickie anyway.
That one may have gotten a little weird and gross. Sorry guys.
May 7, 2017 at 10:29 pm in reply to: 6 x 20 THE SONG IN YOUR HEART >> Favorite/Least Favorite Moments #337899bibliophile
ParticipantDisliked: Okay…let’s not start back up this whole Rumple vs Hook because at this point…you two are borderline family! Just go out, have some coffee, maybe some brunch and talk this thing out.
–Hook and Rumple get a bit ol’ “ugh” from me. Like, yes Hook has a right to be upset but Rumple also has a right to protect his family, just like Hook is! Just get beyond this, you two and stop with the attempted murder. Final Thought: This should be the series finale. It should absolutely end here, without the incoming curse.
I agree with both of you about the continuing Hook vs. Rumple storyline and frankly the whole everyone vs. Rumple storyline. Rumple has a right to defend his family and even to be stupid about it (I don’t trust his mother has his best interests at heart at all) just like everyone else. Haven’t The Charmings and Hook done some dumb and terrible things in the name of love/family themselves? If these screwballs could just have an honest conversation over coffees and bad lasagna at Granny’s than this show could’ve been over years ago.
If Snow can forgive Regina for murdering her father, she can forgive Rumple for manipulating Regina to cast the curse.
If David can forgive Hook for murdering his father, he can forgive Rumple.
Both Hook and Regina as people who have been forgiven SO VERY VERY MUCH, should be able to forgive Rumple.
Really if you look at the people Rumple has actually killed on the show, the only one that directly effects the main cast is Milah and knowing the full story it’s kind of understandable that he kills her when he does. Note that I did not say it was ok. Murder is never ok. But I can understand the reasons behind that one. It’s Charming killing Percival that always mystifies me. Really the whole ‘hero’ side of town is filled with murdering murderers who murder anyway.
And yes that end song could’ve absolutely been the end of the show – if you fill in the gap in between the wedding and everything that happened before it with the missing plotlines and resolutions we still desperately need in order to make that ending feel like a satisfying one.
So Snow you had Belle scourging Gold’s shop for your wedding dress for you and nobody bothered to invite her, yet again I can totally see Rumple giving up his power and then taking Belle and Gideon and going anywhere but Storybrooke. Belle you have no friends here unless they need something from you.
Exactly.
Plus didn’t Rumple say Gideon and Belle were asleep in the last episode? Does that mean Snow broke in to search the shop or did Belle just happen to wake up in time to oblige her?
As for the songs I loved them! So much better than expected.
And oh gee once again The Charmings are happy to turn Rumple over to Hook to be ‘skinned’, but Snow can’t bring herself to execute Regina who actually murdered her father and tried to murder her… Rumple actually helped The Charmings! Even if it was for his own purposes. Hero logic escapes me as it usually does.
Other than that I loved the past flashbacks with all the singing and I thought having Emma break a curse with song in the present dove-tailed nicely with the flashbacks.
The drawback with the present is The Black Fairy/Stiltskins vs. The Charmings plot …if you’d asked me eight days ago if The Black Fairy was a great villain, I would’ve said yes, but after last week’s episode I’m utterly at sea with what they’re trying to do with her. Is she a loving mother who tried a little too hard to protect her son and ended up going crazy (or something) after unknown centuries in the weird dark time-warp realm or is she just an evil villain who needs to be cut down for the good of all? Am I supposed to feel bad for her like I do Rumple because she was once (and maybe still is underneath all those layers of dark magic) a good person or should I think of her like Malcolm as a person who may have been happy at one time, but was never (as far as I can tell) good?
The writers kind of took the teeth out of The Black Fairy last week and I’m struggling to view her as a serious threat now.
But a great episode over all. Easily one of the most enjoyable in the whole series.
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