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ParticipantI wasn’t expecting too but I loved the songs! Everybody did a great job both lyricists and singers. If I have one quibble it would be the jarring use of the b-word in Regina’s song. That was unnecessary I thought and it kind of ruins the replay-ability of her song for me. Keep it Disney guys. Keep it Disney.
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ParticipantYes it sure looks like Once will be getting a renewal, but really shouldn’t they have just come right out and called this the series finale and then announced that next season they would be premiering Once Upon a Time: The Next Generation?
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ParticipantWell an alternate reality where Baelfire was still alive would be nice. Maybe she’ll make a world where she, Malcolm, Rumple, Bae, Belle and Gideon, are all together as a family and happy? That would be a nice change of pace that would get my vote. But you know that even if the entirety of Clan Charming was alive, well and happy in the alt-world they’d still want to change things back once they realized they were under a curse again.
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ParticipantI think if they killed Rumple, it would basically be spitting in the faces of RumBelle fans, especially as RumBelle don’t get any considerable happy screen time together- they’re either fighting or one of them is off-screen or asleep.
yeah but the writers don’t care if it’s unfair to the Rumbelle fans. They’ll say that Rumple died a hero, sacrificing himself to save his family and fulfilling the destiny that should have been his. They’ll say that Rumple freed his son from the clutches of the Black Fairy and that now Belle and Gideon have a chance at a life together because of Rumple.
I agree with both of you unfortunately.
I agree that it would be unfair (and cruel) to Rumbelle fans to kill him off after the horrible few seasons that we’ve sat through with all the (often nonsensical) fighting.
But I also believe that Adam and Eddy absolutely would kill him off and act like that was a ‘happy ending’ for him and for Belle and Gideon. …I just don’t agree with that at all!
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ParticipantI thought the Black Fairy had a pretty disappointing back story. There were a lot of inconsistencies and they did nothing with Blue. Again. It pretty much was just a lot of convoluted mess that made no sense.
Exactly.
I guess I wanted an epic backstory spanning centuries of evil, an unexpected romance with Malcolm, a baby, more shady stuff from Blue, a final banishment from the enchanted realms… and what we got was a hand-wavy mess that didn’t match up to the character we’d seen from her and a suddenly turn to semi-loving mother that makes no sense based on everything we’d already seen of her being awful to Rumple.
It’s very much like the bad plot last year of Emma being The Dark One and telling her family she’d make them pay and then when we finally learn the truth it was just that she was hiding the fact that Hook was a 2nd Dark One. So they built up one story and then they wave it away to tell another story that doesn’t add up to the behavior from the first.
I guess all I’m really saying is that a story should make sense. We should’ve been clapping our hands and saying, ‘Yes! That’s why she’s evil!’ instead most of us felt confused and frankly a little disappointed.
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ParticipantI’m still trying to process that little piece of information. So he was supposed to be brave and save a lot of people and the his mummy used the shears on him he’s a coward and a Dark One?
As for his fate (Death) being severed – it kind of sounded like that part didn’t change. The only change was that in doing so Black Fairy somehow made herself the person prophesied to kill her son.
Everybody dies so I have no general objection to TV characters dying, but in the case of Rumple I’d like to see him have at least a few years of happiness first. The Charmings may have had a rough few years in Storybrooke, but they always had each other (once the curse was broken anyway). Even Regina has had more happy days then Rumple and she’s buried three boyfriends over the course of the show (granted she heart controlled and murdered Graham, her mother killed Daniel and Robin died shielding her from Hades, yet he wasn’t somehow heroic enough to be Zeus’d back to life… ok maybe she hasn’t been that happy, but at least she had chances. I know I know Rumple had chances too, but the flipity flopping never made sense to me so I ignore it sometimes.) it’s frustrating that Zelena of all people is probably going to get a happy ending with her daughter and Rumple will probably die yet again for a son.
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ParticipantI don’t get how Black Fairy could be the most evil after tonight. I was rather hoping she’d just be evil like Cruella no explanation given. Now I guess we’re supposed to feel bad for her because she did love her son and she must’ve been good enough to become the Gold Fairy (fairy goodness has always been debatable though). How exactly did she become a fairy again? That seemed too easy. It’s a wonder all the kids aren’t snatching up fairy wands and giving themselves wings if it’s as easy as that.
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ParticipantOh I believe he has a plan, I just don’t like it. It just doesn’t seem like this will end well and whatever happens the so called heroes are gonna scream bloody murder when they find out Black Fairy isn’t dead.
April 30, 2017 at 9:35 pm in reply to: 6×19 "The Black Fairy" Favorite/Least Favorite Moments #337499bibliophile
ParticipantI just don’t know how to feel at the moment. I loved the first ten – fifteen minutes right up until they said Rumple was prophesied to die… then my heart dropped into my shoes. Even though I knew it was likely I still held onto hope and right about now that hope is starting to shrink to mustard seed dimensions.
The Black Fairy backstory was different than I expected because she started out human rather than fairy, but that twist was unexpected for a reason IT MAKES NO SENSE. Based on how Black and everyone who knows Black talks about her she sounded like an ancient evil type and it makes zip sense that she’s barely older than Rumple. Add to that her sudden affection for Rumple once he knows her secret feels as bizarre as Emma ridicules behavior in season five when she was hiding the double dark one thing. So one minute BF wants to kill everyone and delights in torturing Rumple and his son and as soon her her big secret is out she’s all mummy loves you again? I don’t get it.
BF was basically a good women corrupted by magic (some kind of dark fairy thing that happens when fairies dabble with dark magic instead of light, paralleling Rumple and The Dark One curse) and the need to protect her son at all costs up until the point it might cost her her newly acquired (really how long had she even been a fairy judging by the size of baby Rumple when the fairies dumped him on Malcolm) power and after only like a month of being fairy powerful she couldn’t stand the idea of being human again even if that would’ve saved her son? I’m just a bit confused here. Granted my satellite TV when out for a minute or so while BF and Rumple were having their big chat so maybe I am missing something somewhere.
–Um, Belle? All this time you’ve known that thee was a good man behind the beast and YET you turned into a shrill shrew and said there was no hope for him? But now that a vision of the past says Rumple was supposed to be a Savior suddenly you’re all lovey-dovey again? Eek.
I agree. Belle is one of the worst written characters on the show as far as consistency goes.
I certainly hope that Rumple has a plan up his sleeve that will save the show and himself from certain doom, but I can’t help remembering a bit of trivia I heard about ‘Yankee Doodle Dandy’ (which is an old old film for the information of the younger ones here) that the actor playing the father didn’t want the role until they offered to write him a great death bed scene and (apparently) all actors love a great death scene. Which of course adds to my disquiet as to the fate of my favorite character.
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ParticipantI was surprised that they never un-tinned Stanum. The flashback wasn’t the greatest, but leaving him rusting in the forest felt weird. Maybe they were intimating that he’ll be un-rusted by Dorothy and her oilcan someday like in the movie. The flashbacks for OZ are a bit of a jumble to me so I can’t recall if Dorothy can even do what Dorothy is supposed to do and take the Tin Man, the now cowardly (thanks to Zelena) Lion and the Scarecrow (didn’t Zelena kill him already?) to see the Wizard (who Zelena has already deposed)? Nevermind. I think this was just a nod to the movie with the tin man and the cowardly lion.
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