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Jefferson is like Rumple in that he has one goal and that is to be reunited with his daughter. The ends justifies the means, more so with Jefferson. Jefferson and Rumple are different in that Rumple has a master plan and will not be used by anyone but does use others to acomplish his goal. Jefferson has been used and does not really have a plan. He seems to be improvising and using anything he can to accomplish his goal.
[adrotate group="5"]@Josephine wrote:
I never connected Emma to the Swan Princess, probably because Disney didn’t do that movie. And her name was Odette. My neice used to be obsessed with that movie. I always thought the Swan referred to The Ugly Duckling. In that story, the ugly ducking felt left out and like it didn’t belong. It was never really part of the group. Then it grew up into a beautiful swan and found it’s own kind and happiness. That’s Emma. She didn’t belong to anyone as a child or up till now. She’s finally blossoming into a swan and has found her family and place in the world.
That’s Swan Lake not Swan Princess. Disney did do Swan Princess and is based on Swan Lake.
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
@NONNIE wrote:
The writers seemed to be replicating the middle ages during Rumbles stories but EQ and Snow are much later in time more like the 1700s in costumes and environment.
In the middle ages, the lord of the manor had the right to be the first with a serfs bride ( virgins) or the pick of any woman in the village or farms. It was the custom and many babies were born as bastards from that practice.
The Dukes/ Lords of the manor and rulers have right over life and death over the peasants. They often would kick a farmer off the fields turning them out whenever they wanted. It was much akin to slavery. There were more haneous practices. I think the story will evolve that Rumple’s wife was taken by the lord of the manor as was the custom and that is why Bae is considered a bastard… he probably born 9 months or less after their marriage. Maybe Rumples wife was angry the Rumple could not / would not protect her and that is why she bailed.
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Wow! Great theory! I remember something similar happening in the movie “Braveheart.” The newlywed bride was taken by one of the wealthier men and raped on her wedding night. I wouldn’t be surprised if this happened to Rumpel’s wife. And like A_Desperate_Soul already stated, it would make sense for Rumpel’s story. His entire life has been filled with tragedy. This would just be one more unfortunate event to add to his list.
Yes, King Edward called it Prima Nocta in Braveheart. it was also a custom that actual happened.
@Faux Pax wrote:
I was just rewatching “the return” and am now convinced that the blue fairy remembered at least some of FTL. First off, she’s supposed to be the most powerful magic wielder (more powerful than Rumple) so a spell made by a couple lesser magicians might not work compleatly on her. Secondly, if you were listening to the conversation with August just before Gold shows up she tells him to “not do anything rash.” If what she told Rumple was what she really knew about August than i don’t understand why she would be saying that. Thirdly, you can tell by Henry’s school uniform that it is privet or religious based. It would not be out of place to have the “sisters” work there, thus giving her the perfect opportunity to slip the book into Henry’s path. And lastly, having a character that can use magic and pull strings like she could, be on the good side would serve to a nice balance to Regina (who we know to be evil) and Rumple (who is a little more ambiguous).
True, i agree with you. The BF and Emma will bring balance to magic in SB.
It seems as if her character has become more important. I hope they include her as a regular cast member or at least upgraded to recurring cast member.
Emma is Princess Emma. She is not the prince from Sleeping Beauty because Regina made a reference to her when she spoke to Maleficent. From the way that conversation went it sounded like Snow and Sleeping Beauty are two different people and two separate stories. Besides Charming only put the egg into Mal as a dragon and Emma killed her as a dragon after the curse and after Regina and Mal “talked”. Emma could still be the Swan Princess, wasn’t her name Emma too?
@Faux Pax wrote:
I really don’t think Bell did it. She wouldn’t have known enough of the stories.
The only person I can think of who could do it would be the blue fairy, but the idea of it being written into the curse is neat. The only problume i have with that is the fact that it was Rumple who wrote the curse so he would have had to of written that in as well but there was no way he could know that there would be one person in town who wasn’t cursed and have it find its way to him.
I agree with you. The BF is the only one who knows most all of the stories and does have help (the other fairies) to complete the book. The Belle being the author theory has been played out and there are more ways to debunk that theory than to support it. Then there is that comment the BF made after she told Geppetto to tell Charming and Snow of the wardrobe. She said, “I have final preparations to make” or something like that. It is not a smoking gun but it does bring to light more questions about what kind of preparations one can make when they are just waiting for a curse to come and send a baby to a wardrobe.
I agree that the BF is a part of the plan to only send one but only because she had to agree to Geppetto’s terms or else everyone gets cursed. Had she told the truth then they would have wasted all their time fighting each other rather then get the job done and to send Emma and Pin thru. Geppetto is entirely to blame for this. BF guilty after the fact and being extorted.
The Sleeping Beauty story was mentioned when Regina fought with Maleficent, since the seed was planted it would be nice to see the story and how Mal “redeemed herself”. Regina mentioned to Rumple that she needed help with a mermaid so it sets up the Little Mermaid story. Finally, it would be interesting to find out what happen to Abigail and Freddy, Midas and George. We at least know a little more about George but the prior three had major arcs and then as suddenly as they were introduced they were visibly missing they could somehow be a part of the current arc if written in but nevertheless their absences are loose ends.
