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This episode has me asking more questions than all the others combined.
On the question of Emma and magic, I believe she is the key to breaking the curse; but I don’t think she has magic. Unless her magic is to convince the others that FTL exists and that their true identities are these characters.
I was wondering how Regina felt during the 28 year fog. I’m thinking she would have been more frustrated, because although in a fog, Mary Margaret didn’t seem to be unhappy in her new role. We know Gold and Regina could not have been in the 28 year old fog because he got Henry for Regina. On the other hand, if Regina was not in that 28 year old fog, she probably would have figured out Gold wasn’t either fairly quickly.
So now things don’t make as clear a sense to me as before this episode. Regina would have wanted to revel in Mary Margaret’s suffering. Right now I’m not seeing the 28 year old fog over the characters as being a viable option. Not with Henry coming to Storybrooke. Unless the fog is selective, and only acts during certain situations. When someone thinks about leaving, they forget all of a sudden then pop back into that reality. If they notice nothing changes, they forget what they were talking about. A selective short term memory loss. A town fully of Dorys from Finding Nemo.[adrotate group="5"]crabtremParticipantSo my mind is wandering and thinking James has been taken prisoner by the King. Snow White has her memory back, but needs to rescue James. Katherine is still on the marriage stand, and King Midas and King George are still on their respective thrones.
So now the next story for me will have Maleficent doing her evil deeds. She has some kind of grudge going against Midas and comes to exact her punishment. James is in the dungeon, Snow White tries to rescue him. Maleficent get’s Katherine to fall asleep by pricking her finger on Rumplestiltskins threading wheel. The Blue Fairy casts the sleeping spell on the rest of the castle that has not only Midas, and Katherine in it, but also King George. Snow White gets caught in the spell, but the Dwarves are not affected and take Snow back into the woods thinking she is dead. James was escaping at the time of the sleeping spell and just escapes in time to resume the search for sleeping beauty.crabtremParticipantWith the last episode it could be the return of Katherine.
crabtremParticipantMaybe Regina’s Mother, who we know is going to the King’s Castle too will do something to publicly humiliate Regina. It seem’s very likely indeed that would be who would do it. When Regina’s sanity snapped, it felt to me like she placed all the blame on Snow. Just before she said she should have let her die on the horse. Regina still needs to discover how to get her Mother’s powers, and how to kill her. Poor Snow is the blame and cause for everything wrong; unfortunately not uncommon in abusive households. I don’t know if that’s the way the story will go, but way too many times in today’s world the children do take the blame.
crabtremParticipantAll good points, and I see twists available to all. My thinking now leads me to think that Snow’s Father talks about how she see’s her Mother in her, and she was the fairest in all the land. So because of this reminder, ergo prettier than the Queen, she will never know love. Her Father can only think of Snow’s Mother every time he see’s her, how can he love Regina? It’s a stretch I admit, but I think it is a possibility too.
crabtremParticipantOf the trailers I have seen they all look good. Mirror Mirror appears to be the only one focused towards a younger, family audience. The others are darker, but more diverse. I saw the extended trailer for Snow White and the Huntsman, and was very surprised. Charlize Theron as the Evil Queen looks very good. It may be a little too Joan of Arc’ish; but so far from the trailers I have seen it looks very good. I also watched the trailer for Jack the Giant Killer and that looks like it might be good too.
Mirror Mirror looks good, I think it will be fun to watch. The other trailer I saw from Dreamworks is Rise of the Guardians, which teams up Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and the Sandman to fight an evil. Looks like a good year for Fairy Tales for all audiences.crabtremParticipantI still wondering if Regina has the heart collection at this time. There seems to be too many similarities with the containers of the Queen of Hearts and Regina’s. The flower emblems on the door is the same in Wonderland, FTL, and in Storybrooke. The boxes are the same, including the numbers/letters on the boxes. It always bothered me when Regina first took the heart from the Huntsman, put it in the box and held it up to the wall; she was surprised it didn’t work. In fact I believe she stated as much, more like she acquired the boxes vice creating them. If they are the same boxes then there is a higher probability that the Hatter is after Snow’s Father’s death, but before the Huntsman. That’s assuming the boxes are the same.
crabtremParticipantJefferson is an interesting and dynamic character whose departure is all too soon. He talked to Regina as an equal, so much so that many felt a family bond might exist. It is clear that their dealings go back aways. But she didn’t seem to be familiar with his wife, or what happened to her. Or she just didn’t care. It seemed to me Regina was in darker colors, but not all black, could just be my eyes. I think I remember the feathered collar she wore when she got the spell back from Malificent. But Regina didn’t seem to be as evil at the beginning of the episode as she was at the end.
The mirror attests to this being after Leopold’s murder. Does Regina have her heart collection now? Or will she get this from the Queen of Hearts. We know she has the heart boxes with the Huntsman, but do we know how long she has had them? The doors to the heart lockers have the same flowered design on them, the boxes appear the same, even with the same numbering scheme.crabtremParticipantI personally think that August at the end would have been a bit much. I do like that he might have been there earlier. I mean if the Mad Hatter believes he’s trapped in the house, what would prompt him to try and go out. If a stranger shows up at your door seeming to know too much, and he starts directing your observation of Emma, and Mary Margaret; and how Emma’s arrival coincided with changes to Storybrooke. Not to diminish Jeffersons powers of observation, but it seems like him getting a little guidance from August makes sense to me. Just as Rumplestiltskin oversees and directs how events seem to unfold; for some unknown purpose. AWB seems to have that same insight, we just don’t know his purpose or powers yet.
crabtremParticipantI did go back to the Huntsman, and the same XC notation is used in the Evil Queens collection as the Queen of Hearts. I also noted the flower pattern in the door is the same for the door in the EQ’s castle to the heart boxes, to the door of her Father’s crypt in Storybrooke, to the structure in Wonderland belonging to the Queen of Hearts. To me Henry’s crypt looks very much like the building in Wonderland. Does the timeline account for Regina’s ability to steal or win these boxes from the Queen of Hearts? The reason I’m thinking they are the same as the Queen of Hearts is when Regina first put’s what she thinks is Snow White’s heart in the box and holds it up, at first she is surprised and questions herself that it’s supposed to open. It is then she realizes the Huntsman has tricked her. So it doesn’t look like she created the vault of hearts. I may be reading too much into it.
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