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@Kranen wrote:
Aw *(please avoid obscenities)*. SpoilerTV was reporting it as the OuaTiW script. Liars.
I was reading it thinking that it sounded nothing like what we had seen in the trailer.
That’s ok, mistakes happen. 🙂
Incidentally, our Wonderland show looks to be far better than that one. Doesn’t seem that all that exciting to me the premise of Alice as the new Queen of Hearts and a new character, Clara, coming to Wonderland to fight her. 🙄
[adrotate group="5"]@Kranen wrote:
Actually, that’s from a different Wonderland pilot, not tied the new show. For more information:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/anthony-zuikers-alice-wonderland-gets-416413I don’t know what came of this. I guess it wasn’t approved, since this is from 2011 and I’ve heard nothing of it since them.
@Phee wrote:
As for the drinking age, as someone who lives where it’s 18, I’ve always thought the 21 limit was nuts, so I say drink up, SB! 😛
😆
@Phee wrote:
ETA: Actually, wasn’t another of Hook’s crew listed in a cast list for the finale (or was it the 2nd last ep)?
I think that was in that fake press release for “Second Star to the Right”.
@batclaw wrote:
I don,t think PP will be bad I think it,s his shadow captureing boys and he needs to find his shadow and retached himself with it.Also Disney would not let PP be bad it would not look good with mom,s and dad,s knowing that Disney is letting this show turning everyone childhood hero into a villain they would not want there kids watching that if PP was bad I been wondeing why PP was not with the LB when they was looking for Bae then it hit me PP was with Wendy and her brothers after the shadow got Bae PP came and told Wendy that he needs help that his shadow is going crazy captureing boys and does not know how to retached himself with the shadow and then I think he said to Wendy is if she help him with his shadow then they could find Bae and bring him home so while LB was looking for Bae PP was showing Wendy and her brothers NL.
Why is it so hard for you to believe Peter Pan can be a villain? This is how Wikipedia describes him:
Peter is mainly an exaggerated stereotype of a boastful and careless boy. He is quick to point out how great he is, even when such claims are questionable (such as when he congratulates himself for Wendy’s successful re-attachment of his shadow). In the book and play, as well as both film adaptations, Peter either symbolises or personifies the selfishness of childhood, shown in Barrie’s work through constant forgetfulness and self-centred behaviour.
Peter has a nonchalant, devil-may-care attitude, and is fearlessly cocky when it comes to putting himself in danger. Barrie writes that when Peter thought he was going to die on Marooners’ Rock, he felt scared, yet he felt only one shudder run through him when any other person would have felt scared up until death. With his blithe attitude towards death, he says, “To die will be an awfully big adventure”. He repeats this line as an adult in the film Hook (1991), during the battle with Hook near the film’s climax. He then inverts the phrase at the film’s very end claiming, “To live will be an awfully big adventure”. This line was actually taken from the end of the last scene in the play, when the unseen and unnamed narrator ponders what might have been if Peter had stayed with Wendy, so that his cry might have become, “To live would be an awfully big adventure!”, “but he can never quite get the hang of it”.[3]
In some variations of the story and some spin-offs, Peter can also be quite selfish and arrogant. In the Disney adaptation (1953), Peter appears very judgemental and pompous (for instance, he calls the Lost Boys “blockheads”, and when the Darling children say they should leave for home at once, he misunderstands their wish and angrily assumes they want to grow up). Nonetheless, he has a strong sense of justice and is always quick to assist those in danger.
Bolded the most interesting excerpts. I see far more negative personality traits to the character here than positive ones. It’s very within the realm of possibility to have Peter Pan be a villain if they so wish, it wouldn’t be that much a stretch at all!
Trivia: according to Disney wiki, “even though his film was a success, Peter Pan was not one of Walt Disney’s favorite characters because he felt Pan was too immature and cold.”
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
As for Jefferson, perhaps he knows of the existence of them but can’t get there via his hat. The way he travels is only within the hat but we’ve seen other ways to get places so he may have vast knowledge on this and he might know other portal jumpers that use different means of travelling etc.
It’s possible, but so far every time a land without magic is involved in the plot it’s heavily hinted they’re referring to THE Land Without Magic. Take the ruby slippers dialogue from The Doctor, for example:
Rumplestiltskin: What about the slippers?
Mad Hatter: Oh. Couldn’t find ’em. Heard talk they’d already been moved to another land.
Rumplestiltskin: That’s what I needed to get to that other land.
Mad Hatter: Well, come with me in my hat. I’m sure we can work something out.
Rumplestiltskin: No, no. Your hat only transports between magical realms. I need to get to a land without magic.@MysteryKat25 wrote:
(I’ve seen them SAY 19th century which would be 1800s but uh..why does it LOOK like the early 1900s? which also lines up with the PP story…and in that case HOW could he possibly be supposed to be a couple hundred years old if it’s just a 100?)
Does it really look like early 1900s? The clothes Wendy and Mary Darling are wearing doesn’t strike me as early 20th century, but that’s just me.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Wish they’d be more careful about this stuff.
For real.
Take Jefferson’s words about there being LandS without magic, for example. We know now that the Hat could only take him to lands WITH magic, so how could he know there was more than just one of them without it?
@RumplesGirl wrote:
And another theory bites the dust.
This does NOT explain that line in The Queen is Dead, however. Neal clearly said that THIS world wasn’t his first stop when he left home. Unless he’s saying that he was hear for a very short amount of time and thus for Neal it doesn’t count as a real stop. But that seems unlikely given how he came to consider the Darlings and London his home.
I’ll just fanwack this to a bad choice of words. It makes far more sense for Bae to have landed in the real England, because it defeats the whole point of the Curse bringing Rumple to the world Bae went when he fell through the portal if that London wasn’t the one from The Land Without Magic.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
[Hmm, I guess they met in Portland and moved down to Arizona around the time Emma ended up in jail then. I remember thinking all along it was Arizona and then the Oregon police cars threw a wrench into that but I guess maybe they went all the way down to Arizona and just ended up in a similarly-named place (there’s a Phoenix, Oregon as well apparently). This is like figuring out Emma’s…t-word…with how old she was.
More like Neal stole the watches in Phoenix, Arizona and then took a train to Portland, Oregon to escape from being caught… 🙂
