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Totally called that Tamara and Greg worked for a secret organization. Tamara was just too resourceful in “Selfless, Brave and True” not to be backed up by powerful people. Did not expect them, however, being against magic. Makes sense, though; if they wanted to seize magic for questionable ends, the story would necessarily have the spreading of magic through the rest of the world as a natural outcome, amplifying the scope of the villains’s plots in a way that the series can’t financially do.
I agree with all the points brought by Matthew and I’ll even raise one here: I think it’s possible that the organization is the one truly responsible for Owen growing up without a father. The way I see it, Regina did end up releasing Kurt shortly after Owen left, but the organization captured or killed him before he got reunited with his son and then had Tamara in the present day use Owen’s resentment at having his father be ripped away from him to get him to join their ranks.
[adrotate group="5"]I’ve seen people mentioning that what was with Wendy was Peter’s shadow, not Peter himself, hence the creepy appearance.
@Phee wrote:
@Demileto wrote:
@Phee wrote:
Also, we’ve been led to believe that we won’t see Peter Pan this season, and how do you have the Darling kids around if you don’t also have Peter Pan around?
Well, they had Lancelot without Arthur and Guinevere, so I don’t see this as unlikely.
That situation was different though, because that was Lancelot after the Arthur and Guinevere stuff had happened, so they weren’t needed to tell this part of his story. But, assuming Freya’s character will be in the Neverland flashbacks, if Wendy is there, then Peter Pan has to be around at the same time, because she got there by flying with him. If she’s in the present day in SB instead, I’m not sure how Wendy would fit into that, because she supposedly returned to our world quite some time ago.
We also had Maleficent without Sleeping Beauty, Sleeping Beauty without Maleficent, Cinderella without her Stepmother and the Mad Hatter and the Queen of Hearts without Alice.
The point is, we’ll be seeing a flashback on Baelfire’s POV whose focus will be the relationship he had with Hook; it’s possible, maybe even likely, that Hook/Bae had some sort of surrogate father/son relationship when he first arrived at Neverland, which means he lived in Hook’s ship during his first years there. We know, however, that it ended somehow, and finding Wendy as a prisioner of the Captain could very well have been it. Bae releases her, they escape, we get to be introduced to Wendy without necessarily introducing Peter or the other Darling children.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
But if this is the story of Bae’s first few days in NL, then Freya being Wendy doesn’t make sense, especially if Bae isn’t Pan.
Just because we’ll be seeing Bae’s arrival in NL doesn’t mean the episode flashbacks will take place in the timespan of a few days. Episodes like the Pilot, The Price of Gold, Skin Deep and The Miller’s Daughter show that we can easily have a time jump of months or even years between two flashback scenes.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I made this point a page back but I think it got lost. Another thing that doens’t make sense. Timeline wise, how does Hook meet Bae in NL when he comes through the bean hole when Hook and Milah were traveling around FTL when they ran into Rumple for the second time, at least a few years AFTER he lost Bae. Timeline issues guys. They are what keep me up at night.
That’s a VERY good point. We have to remember that, while this PR seems legit, it may not be, since it was posted in IMDB of all places by someone claiming to work for ABC.
@Phee wrote:
Also, we’ve been led to believe that we won’t see Peter Pan this season, and how do you have the Darling kids around if you don’t also have Peter Pan around?
Well, they had Lancelot without Arthur and Guinevere, so I don’t see this as unlikely.
@Phee wrote:
From memory, the news of both girls’ casting was leaked at the same time. I thought someone saw them both hanging around set together?
Correct: https://oncepodcast.com/forums//viewtopic.php?p=47533#p49083
@bluebutterfly wrote:
Happy ouat day!
One question, weren’t supposed to be 2 girls in this episode or i got it wrong?Pretty sure this spoiler was for the finale. 🙂
I found this interesting from the interview at D23
:Eddy: Well, I think the fans can look forward to kind of the culmination of everything we set up this year. Who are Greg and Tamara, who do they work for, do they work for anyone, what’s their agenda?
That’s the first time they hint that there’s more than just Greg and Tamara as outsiders interesting in seizing Storybrooke’s secrets.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
“Don Juan was nothing before he made his deal with me.” Rumplestiltskin, I love you wholeheartdly and unashamedly.
Oh, so THAT was what Rumple said! 😆
I’ll go with Rumple’s “He has my eyes, don’t you think?” in regards to Henry. That was just awesome.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
I believe Adam and Eddy have confirmed that Regina could have left SB at any point, since she wasn’t cursed. She always had her true identity, so leaving wouldn’t have any ill effect on her. It’s possible Mr. Gold procured Henry simply by telling Regina about him and then she left for Arizona to retrieve baby Henry.
I could be wrong, but I think they’ve said this in regards to post-curse Storybrooke. Furthermore, we saw Regina touching the barrier surrounding the town during its curse days in “Welcome to Storybrooke”.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Who says that is really her grandmother? Who says it wasn’t a ploy by Tamara to get what she wanted? That woman lies lies lies lies lies.
Well, she was very protective of that photograph to the point she retrieved it after killing the Dragon, so I assume the woman with Tamara has to be someone special to her.
