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I think they’ll invent a reason for the characters to stay in SB rather than go back to FTL. A possible one is the need to protect SB’s magic bubble from outsiders wanting to seize its magic for their questionable ends, since I doubt the characters leaving would mean the end of the bubble.
[adrotate group="5"]Even more news:
http://tvline.com/2013/04/04/once-upon-a-time-spinoff-casts-red-queen-barbara-hershey-cora/To my knowledge, that’ll make this the first adaptation of Alice in Wonderland where the characters of the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen have not been combined in one.
More spin-off news: the name changed again – it’s ‘Once Upon a Time in Wonderland’ now – and they just cast Emma Rigby as the Red Queen:
http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/emma-rigby-joins-abcs-once-upon-a-time-spinoff
I had to laugh at how Deadline described the character, though. They’re clearly ignorant of the book’s story to describe her as a playing card – she’s a chess queen, the playing card is the Queen of Hearts – and calling her Iracebeth, a name Tim Burton coined for his Alice in Wonderland movie and that was never present in the original story. 🙄
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I think she might be around for at least the first few episodes of S3 if she doesn’t die in the finale (which I can’t see because they have to explain her entire story and I don’t know how they’re going to do that with 19 = Rumbelle, 20 = Snow/Regina, 21/22 = Finale and Neverland)
Well, there’s always that theory about her being Robin Hood and Marian’s daughter. 🙂
Then again, maybe she was never intended to stand much as an individual, but as a hook to introduce the true villain: an organization, private or governamental, intending to seize magic for their own questionable ends. She was far too resourceful in “Selfless, Brave and True”, having access to the most sophisticated techniques available to men to test chemical composition (the Dragon’s potion) and possessing an unique taser specially developed to kill magical beings. She’d have to be an impressive millionaire and a genius multi-skilled on various fields of knowledge like Marvel Comics’s Reed Richards and Doctor Doom to be able to do both by herself. I can’t wrap my head around that idea, so there has to have people backing her actions.
Not sure if this has been post somewhere else on the board: http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/04/the-walking-dead-season-4-chad-l.html
Apparently Sonequa Martin-Green has been promoted to series regular on The Walking Dead. I’m starting to think she might indeed die in the finale.
@Gypsy wrote:
It’s the same apt.
Notice the bookshelf and part of the Cleaner’s and Hatter’s sign behind the pic of Emma and Henry
They just never showed the other room – the foot of his bed is ‘pointing’ at it.I doubt they originally intended to have another room back in “Broken”, with his bed sharing the same space as the living room. I think this is just a case of a change coming out of plot necessity: K&H didn’t want Neal to lay eyes on Henry the moment he burst through the door, so they had Neal’s apartment expanded so they could have Henry hide there until the right moment comes for father and son to meet.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I keep forgetting that this is really a two part episode and we have to keep 221 in mind.
Yeah, what clued me in that Neal may already start 2×22 lost is that MRJ took only 1 or 2 days to shoot his scenes and his only known interactions in the episode are with Sarah, Jamie and Julian. His storyline, like the flashbacks to when he was a Lost Boy in Neverland, seems like will take only a mild spotlight in the episode, serving as a reliever to the increased tension that’ll come from Greg and Tamara kidnapping Henry, an event which I’m growing increasedly convinced is intended to be seen as Hour of Prophecy approaching.
Fortunately, this latest theory of mine about Neal also made me more optimistic that Rumple will not disappoint those of us who hope he’ll do the right thing. I now think he’ll seize the opportunity of Henry’s birthday party to cast some sort of Trojan Horse spell on Henry, so that whatever attempts on his grandson’s life will backfire heavily on the attacker. This’ll allow him in the final moments of the finale to play like he doesn’t care about Henry at all when the Hour of Prophecy comes and Tamara forces him to chose between his life or his grandson’s. 🙂
Nothing like a good night’s sleep for new ideas to come to you. A brand new theory just occured to me that could tie the two conflicting possibilities for what happens to Neal.
I think Neal does get marked for the wraith (please let it be because of Tamara and not Rumple attempting to harm Henry!) in “Second Star to the Right…”, but Rumple, saying that he’d rather have his son alive but away to him than close but soulless, asks him to jump into a bean portal to go to a place the wraith cannot reach him, to which he does after poigonant goodbyes to Henry, Emma and Rumple. He then meets Mulan, Aurora and Philip in “…and Straight on Till Morning” and they provide him an out to his curse, but by the time he returns to Storybrooke the cast already left to chase Greg and Tamara.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Ethan Embry said he wasn’t sure if he was (but he’s open to it!). So my thought is that somehow only Tamara winds up in NL?
Well, I don’t think he’d give a straight up yes because it’d mean his character doesn’t die in the finale, and that’s a spoiler, however small. In any case, it probably remains to be seen even for him if his character will play a role only in the first few episodes of season 3 or until the very end.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Spike started as a villain and had a bit of a sob story past revealed in later seasons. Of course by that time, he wasn’t evil anymore.
I think the reason why the Buffy villains got away with just being pure evil and were still liked was because they were so charismatic and had a sense of humour. Spike was originally meant to be a villain killed off during season 2 but he was so popular with the fanbase that he was kept on the show. When Buffy kicked him into the Organ, he was meant to die but because of his popularity they injured him instead. In some ways I actually prefer season 2 evil Spike over Chip in the head Spike.
Tamara lacks that certain something that makes her likeable as a villain. A good villain is one where you know the hero is going to win, but you kind of hope the villain wins instead. With Tamara, I want the heroes to hurry up and beat her.
I didn’t mention Spike originally because, in the end, he wasn’t the Big Bad of season 2, but yeah, they did reveal a sob story for him. Then again, by the time they did that, he was a main character already, and multifaced main characters are a must.
Yeah, Tamara does lack that certain something, and the fact that they’re not even trying that, relying solely on sob stories, really annoys me.
