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@KFChimera wrote:
@dena81 wrote:
My theory? Somehow August arranged it with Neal to protect her or something like that. So he’s playing the boyfriend/fiancee etc Why? because the filming pics where August and Neal are talking, Tamara doesn't look like she's watching them, it's almost like they're staked out there for her So, the whole coffee bit is setup and that’s why when he sees Emma he’s like “It’s complicated” because I’m sure he wants to be like “I want to tell you the whole story so you don’t think I moved on because I haven’t” After all why did they use that wording? Why did Ausiello focus on that word as did JMo in her interview? Complicated is not what you use to describe, hey it’s been 11 years and I just moved on and fell in love with someone else, sorry. I know some thought it was complicated due to her not being magical which i still don’t believe, there’s too much emphasis. And he’s stuck in this role but he probably cares about Tamara in a way and he also has to keep up the pretense of her protector or whatever and you can’t just say “Oh HAI THIS IS THE COMPLICATED THING” cuz then Tamara will be all “Huh?” so there’s something I think he knwos more of that we havent’ found out yet.
The phrase “It’s complicated” is almost a cliche phrase that people use when talking about romantic triangles. There’s even a movie along those lines, titled It’s complicated. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1230414/. So Neal’s “it’s compllicated” may actually not be THAT complex as some big conspiracy. But on this show…we never know!
Which would insinuate that he thinks he’s in a love triangle. This is when he’s first seen her after almost 11 years. You don’t tell your ex that you’ve just seen after a decade “It’s complicate” just to insinuate a love triangle…there’s more to it and honestly the spoilers out with Eddy’s answers about Tamara being involved in a love triangle and them skirting around how we’re going to love her part in the whole story and NEVER using the word love triangle or referencing her as interfering with the two, and the fact they are still saying the rest of this season is Neal and Emma figuring out “what now” with the fact they are both still in love with each other, tells me a very, very different story.
[adrotate group="5"]dena81Participant@playarita wrote:
@L Jones wrote:
Oh God! This board is filled with Emma/Neal shippers. No wonder people are posting nasty comments about a character no one knows about. 🙄 I have never encountered such intolerance on a message board in my life.
By the way, I despise Neal. I think he’s a douche.
I am slightly offended that being an emma/neal shipper (which you already have stated you have a bias against) is the sole reason why there’s hate towards Tamara or that it is exclusive to this group. The hate is natural. It happens. It has nothing to do with intolerance or immaturity. Every fan clique has their moments where they say their piece about characters. There’s no need for the eye roll. (: Personally hate like this a par of the course (maybe you’ve been on different type of boards?) when coming to characters (and ones that are being shipped) honestly I have seen it for celebrities as well.
To be honest comments like is completely turning me off of the OUAT fandom.
Do I ship Emma/Neal? Oh yes I do…hardcore even. To the point that if I look at happy Neal/Tamara pics my heart cringes. does this mean I hate Tamara? Noooo I’m happy we FINALLY have an African American woman on!!! I’d like her to stay, I’d like her to be integral, I’d like her to find love with someone in StoryBrooke that’s not Neal! Trust me, SB does have some lookers and let’s not shove her with Hook to quite the Hook/Emma fans out there please -.- she deserves a classy guy.
That being said, in light of recent Eddy/Adam spoilers, I’m theorizing on who Tamara is. Part of me wonders if she is actually from SB and somehow wandered over the town line? Maybe her memory erased and August found her and somehow told Neal he needed to watch over her for the time being. Or another theory of mine, Henry kept saying bad things happen when people cross the town line. So…why don’t we hear about hundreds of deaths? I mean no one has thought “Oh I want to go to Boston?” or go find a mall? Or go cross-country? Not one single person? Did Regina’s curse affect them that much? Or….did someone try and get into an accident so bad a rumor was spread about of how bad it was, making Henry think “Oh bad things really happen, people die” because everyone was led to believe this ‘accident’ resulted in death? What if they thought it was Tamara’s death? But instead a wandering August found her and somehow saved her? It’s a bs theory really but I dunno I just feel like in the pics, in the short, short scene it seems like Neal is protecting her more than being in head over heels in love with her. Maybe it’s just my swanfire shipper heart hoping *shrugs* who knows
but please stop saying all swanfire shippers are rude and hate Tamara. No we just hate Hook =P I don’t know Tamara yet to hate or love her.
dena81ParticipantCouldn’t disagree more. She was amazing and her facial expressions? Snow is pretty emotional, which is funny as it parallels her daughter Emma who can at times be an emotional brick wall. Bailee did it amazingly and for such a young girl just…wow I do hope we see a lot more amazing stuff out of her in the future.
dena81ParticipantMy theory? Somehow August arranged it with Neal to protect her or something like that. So he’s playing the boyfriend/fiancee etc Why? because the filming pics where August and Neal are talking, Tamara doesn't look like she's watching them, it's almost like they're staked out there for her So, the whole coffee bit is setup and that’s why when he sees Emma he’s like “It’s complicated” because I’m sure he wants to be like “I want to tell you the whole story so you don’t think I moved on because I haven’t” After all why did they use that wording? Why did Ausiello focus on that word as did JMo in her interview? Complicated is not what you use to describe, hey it’s been 11 years and I just moved on and fell in love with someone else, sorry. I know some thought it was complicated due to her not being magical which i still don’t believe, there’s too much emphasis. And he’s stuck in this role but he probably cares about Tamara in a way and he also has to keep up the pretense of her protector or whatever and you can’t just say “Oh HAI THIS IS THE COMPLICATED THING” cuz then Tamara will be all “Huh?” so there’s something I think he knwos more of that we havent’ found out yet.
dena81ParticipantI still don’t think he’s Peter Pan, merely for a couple of things. Bobby said in an interview that he thought if Peter Pan were to be on it’d be a young boy of 12-14ish. Also the writers have previously said Peter Pan wouldnt’ be this season which makes me think the finale will have them going to Neverland for some reason either to see him or I think someone will get chased into the world somehow
I do think the person that will be “kinda” revealed might have to do with the recent spoiler that we wouldn't' see Goldilocks but another female literary character my guess from the Neverland verse
dena81ParticipantI want my end game of swanfire like the next person but…I’m not calling her a who**. She doesn’t know, or I’m assuming, she doesn’t know the whole situation. She doesn’t know who Emma is and I have a feeling Neal’s hidden most of his past to her. Then again we dont’ know her past, he did mention to Emma it was “Complicated” so there may be more to the scenario. And let’s be kind here and not resort to names. Yes she’s an obstacle for our OTP but have you ever known of any good show to just have a plain happy couple the entire time with no obstacles what-so-ever?
dena81ParticipantI think it’s endgame for one reason: emma’s face. I think this was what we needed as evidence she is not over him. He’s her true love and she didn’t just get over him and the way he skirted around it, he’s not either. I mean he called her his “friend” and he said “It’s complicated” There’s more to that story and I think she’s just a plot device to cause drama
dena81ParticipantWhat do you guys think about the game changer Robby spilled out?
dena81ParticipantHeyyy guys yeah let’s make this a live discussion only 1 minute left, so excited!!!!!
dena81ParticipantI’m almost positive the declaration of love is Cora for Rumple
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