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It would appear nobody wants to take the Evil Queen’s turn 😆
Regina: _ _ _ — _ _ _ _ — _ _ _ _ , – _ _ _ _ _ — _ _ — _ — _ _ _ _ _ _ .
[adrotate group="5"]Actually, Regina doesn’t have a dual personality either. True, in Storybrooke she is some mayor, but she’s always remembered FTL and who she was so she wouldn’t have a life to go to if she forgot who she really was. She enacted the curse so would she suffer the consequences of breaking it like everyone else?
Or, yes, it might be referring to the battle between Cora and Regina, but in the present Storybrooke? The ‘mental’ battle that Cora would eventually fail, trying to convince her daughter onto her side? It could be a symbolic death, the Evil Queen – “the other woman” inside Regina – could be gone as she wants to redeem herself?
It would tie nicely if, at the same time, we would have some queen dying in FTL flashbacks?
@AntBee wrote:
I hope so. Just please don’t let them use the idea of Bae not being Rumple’s real son but Regina being his real daughter that is going around right now.
Well, in the Desperate Souls, the Dark One suggested that Bae might not be Rumple’s son after all. (“What a poor bargain that would be – to lay down your soul to save your bastard son”) Milah didn’t exactly come across as faithful…
However, that doesn’t mean Rumple isn’t the person who brought him up. Bae perceived him as a father – does one need much more than that? Is Regina not Henry’s mom just because she didn’t give him birth? Whether those theories are true or not, I don’t think they are worth exploring, because it really is all down to how we see things rather than what they actually are. Bae might be a ‘bastard son’ (Jon Snow anyone? 😆 ) but Rumple loves him no matter the blood connections.And yes, I agree, Rumple has something in it for him to take Emma to look for Bae, I like that he could insist that Henry comes too – a way of protecting they boy from Cora but at the same time hurting Regina and probably ultimately breaking her.
But previously he seemed afraid of Cora (when Regina asked him for help with bringing MM and Emma back from FTL), saying how powerful she is blah blah. Would he be trying to help Cora all along? Knowing it would happen anyway and psyching people up about Cora and scaring them, including Regina but inside smiling to himself?
Cora is definitely miller’s daughter, as it has been confirmed in Stable Boy. Whether she is THE miller’s daughter from the original Rumplestiltskin story, I don’t know but my guess is YES. But Snow’s mom being miller’s daughter is an interesting theory!
Favorite moment? LAST SCENE. It has to be. Suddenly EVERYTHING is turned 180 degrees (even the car 😆 ) and now ANYTHING can happen. It brought so many opportunities on what might happen next:
– obviously, Rumple and Belle relationship is going to be an interesting one to watch
– Hook and what his next move might be – now he got to Rumple’s heart, does he consider his vengeance achieved?
– the outsider character, who the heck is he and how is this going to affect Storybrooke?LEAST favourite?
Archie reappearing in Storybrooke. Not only the reaction to the fact he’s alive and that it wasn’t Regina, is very flat and short, but also, in the complete contrary to the last scene of the episode, it shut off a lot of possibilities and a story that still had so much potential to be developed.@AngieBelle wrote:
And how did Hook find out about the whole border thing anyway?
Two possibilities:
– Archie – he had to tell Hook SOMETHING or get hurt so he decided to tell him what he thought would be of the least significance.
– Smee – that little rat of a man was probably so excited about leaving Storybrooke for good and ‘without the barrier’ that Hook surely must have picked up on that and questioned him about it. And something tells me Smee could be quite a talkative guy sometimes 😛I will repeat my thoughts about Hook here. For a moment there, I did feel sorry for him and Milah. But after his words exchange with Bella (‘Your heart is rotten’ – ‘You have no idea’) and such willingness to have his heart ripped out by Rumple (and losing with a cane??? he didn’t even try to defend himself!) I don’t think he was suicidal at all. I reckon his heart was cursed with Cora’s help or something like that so that Rumple would die if he tried to do anything with that? Or even not by Cora by but someone else – remember the scene when he walks down the bean stalk and argues with Cora, then finally challenges her to kill him? He’s not suicidal but he’s not afraid of dying. Or of what might happen if anyone does try to kill him.
He’s still vengeful and he has plan he’s determined to realize. Otherwise it would be just so contradicting – he didn’t even try to defend himself when attacked on the ship, appearing to give up and just wanting to die but he’s determined enough to chase after Rumple after that and attack Belle?
Or it might be just the attitude – never mind if I die but if Rumple pays the consequences, so be it. The thirst for vengeance could’ve blinded him completely, turning more into a buddy for Mad Hatter.Another thing – somehow I don’t see Archie spilling the beans. I know he seemed scared when Hook threatened him but it would take a lot more than that to make him talk. Also, how would he know about Baelfire’s cape? It makes me think that perhaps Hook met Bae in Neverland already and learned all he could about Rumple? He speculated that perhaps Rumple’s son wouldn’t want to reunite with him in the end but that could’ve just been cruel lies, just something Hook knew would work?
Hm, my impression is that Cora visits her daughter and tries to get her back.
Regina seems like she’s changed back into that young, scared girl again, obviously shocked but cannot fight against her own tyrant mother. However, I don’t think that at that point Cora gets her back just like that. I see three possible scenarios:– the only purpose to that visit might be just to make herself known to her daughter and leave her a message ‘You know where I am, if/when you need me’. She might not want to force Regina just yet, she’s a Queen of Hearts so she knows how to work them, especially if it’s her own daughter. She might want this decision to really be her daughter’s, not hers, because only then it would count, so she just wants her to start thinking about it and how good it would be.
– or Cora, thinking her daughter is fully broken, wants to get her there and then but Regina, though clearly struggling with the situation, manages to recoil. She doesn’t want that life any more and she wouldn’t leave Henry. Perhaps there could be some parallels to the scene back in FTL when young Regina was trying to run away and said she didn’t want power, she wanted to be free.
– or Regina really is devastated and she’s about to give in when Henry and Emma show up, saying how sorry they were etc
Either way, Cora’s visit doesn’t turn out exactly like she wanted, she sees Regina is still not fully ‘broken’ so she needs to ‘work’ her even more. And who’s better at manipulating people than Rumple himself? They agree that it’s Henry who’s Regina’s weakness. Again, there could be two different things coming out of it:
– either Cora asks for a spell who would erase Henry from Regina’s heart/memory
– or they agree that it’s Henry who needs to be targeted but he’s under Emma’s protection and, as we know, she’s untouchable by Cora. Conveniently, Rumple might eliminate her out of the equation by taking her with him to find Bae. But what would he want in return? Finishing off Hook? And would he let hurt Henry? He’s quite sweet around kids (and dogs). Perhaps he would give Cora a spell of forgetting, all right, but meant for Henry? Or an idea of how to affect kid’s imagination for him to start to hate Regina once and for all?
– or Cora can come up with many fine ideas herself, all she needs is for Rumple to ‘fix her’ like he fixed Regina’s magic before by giving her the book of spells. Obviously magic is different in Storybrooke so perhaps Cora struggles to reach her magical potential and needs some help? In the end, Rumple wouldn’t be himself if he just gave Regina the whole book without keeping a spell or two?
Either way, the conclusion of the meeting would be that Rumple passes on a spell to Cora, perhaps not so much through a kiss but by a breath. Remember the book of spells, Regina had to breath it in to gain her powers, maybe this one would be similar.
