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@Schmacky wrote:
I’m sorry but that entire paragraph after the quote is completely moot and pointless. It doesn’t matter if she thought her kid would eat sweets or go to Emma’s or whatever… she made a poisoned dessert where he could have access to it. It doesn’t matter if she thought he’d eat it or not… she made it happen. She made it. She attempted to poison someone. That is bad. Very bad. And his condition is solely her fault. Because if she never made it he never would have fell victim to it.
Of course it matters that she didn’t expect Henry to eat it. Yes, she’s the one who poisoned the damn thing but if her intentions were never meant for Henry and if she truly wouldn’t imagine him eating it, how is that remotely connected to bad parenting???
Sure, he would never ever be in that state if she didn’t create the curse in the first place so it is her fault – I badly formulated my words before – but it was intended for Emma and Emma only and you cannot under any circumstances connect that to being a bad mother trying to kill her kid. I bet she would rather die than let him get hurt this way.EDIT: Legal adoption or not – that would be Gold’s case, not Regina’s.
[adrotate group="5"]@Schmacky wrote:
From what Emma knows and has seen Regina just murdered someone! One of Henry’s only friends. She just used magic on Emma and flung her across the yard. The girl cannot control her temper.
What? She’s just been accused of murdering someone AND interrogated and later on visited again not just by a sheriff but the whole Charming family – hello? This is unprofessional and putting the suspect on a hell of a stress. Three people standing on your door mat accusing you of something you have no idea of and at the same time with little smirks debating how cool it was that Emma used magic – it would be horrible and confusing for anyone to experience it, especially that Regina had particularly bad history with two of them. Yet she’s still trying to keep it down and she’s not even raising the voice or calling them names. No, it’s not until she’s being told she cannot see her son AND she’s being attacked by Blue with obvious intentions to imprison her again – and this is when she loses temper and pushes Emma back – yet, she does NOTHING ELSE. She’s not throwing fire at the Charmings, she’s not threatening Emma’s life or calling for vengeance, even though she’s fully capable of it. You call this not being able to control temper?
Dam right someone needs to take Henry away from Regina.
That’s already been done. What the issue is, that she wouldn’t be allowed to see HER OWN SON. And Henry DOES want to see her too. She deserves some credit for bringing Henry up to be the person he is now because for the past 10 years she has been there for him and gave him all the attention she could. Like I said before, even women in prisons are allowed to see their kids and sometimes even have them inside the prison. And the overall purpose of a prison is not just punishment but also correction and help that the prisoners are believed to deserve.
It doesn’t matter that Regina didn’t mean for Henry to eat the poisoned turnover. The fact that it was there is the problem. As in.. ya know, the attempted murder/sleeping curse of someone. That’s just not a good thing to do. Not very excusable. She also didn’t ensure that her son wouldn’t eat it. Knowing that her son goes to Emma’s apartment and has probably eaten there many times and knowing more than likely they would say goodbye… Regina didn’t make sure that Henry accidentally got a piece of that turnover. Irresponsible. Endangering the child’s life.
I’m not excusing her for creating the curse in the first place but to me, she’s not really guilty of Henry’s coma (as in, directly). When Emma came to see her she actually told Regina she was leaving pretty soon so the chances of her having time to sit down with Henry for long enough to enjoy a pie would be probably small, in her mind. Also, it’s been shown she doesn’t let Henry eat much sweets, in fact she believes he doesn’t eat any at all (incident with Hans and Gretel). Calling her a bad mother would be feasible if she actually directly did something to harm him. She’s never intended to have him eat the pie and seriously, predicting for all the possible scenarios is just not possible.
Of course, I cannot say she’s a perfect mother but she is trying. I’m not saying Henry should be living back with her either. And what she’s done in FTL is terrible but it cannot be undone in any way so what counts is presence. And right now and here she really is sorry and trying her best and while I don’t think it would be healthy for her to get a big prize for that straight away, leaving her with no hope whatsoever is not a good idea either.
While people get irritated that Regina is often getting excused these days. Do we not all hope for a chance if we do something wrong? [Yes, it’s been pointed out she had her chance back in FTL too. But back then she had no other motif to live. And what Snow was offering so happily – a freedom – didn’t smell right anyway. Plus she discovered that damned knifie – of course she took it as yet another sign of Snow’s betrayal and her intention to kill/humiliate her possibly when walking behind her down the stairs]
What irritates me is that she seems to be a pawn in everyone else’s hands and she can’t break out of it. People manipulate her too easily and don’t even have to face any consequences. For a woman of her powers, she really could stand up for herself more.
Personally, if it was me, I would forget the kid, leave town and start a new life. “The void will never be filled” so why bother trying, seeing it doesn’t bring any results? Henry seems to be happy as it is so perhaps Regina could just accept it, move on and forget about the whole charade for her own sake?@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Are we really willing to forget mommy dearest’s baking activities that landed her adoptive son in the hospital, at death’s door? I think any rights were long done after that shinning moment of motherhood.
Your argument is INVALID. At no point Regina meant the turnover for Henry and you’re making it sound as if she purposely poisoned her own son. If you state this as a bad example of motherhood, I may equally say that Emma is to be blamed too for letting Henry eat it in the first place. That’s how little sense it makes.
