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well, i think it’s pretty obvious that the cliffhanger will be about who gets through to the real world and who stays alive/left in FTL. They shouldn’t have released the photos from episode 10 because w now know for sure that Emma, Snow and Hook make it through the portal (or whatever it is) and Charming is with them too. I hope there will be a glimpse of Cora and Regina at least seeing each other through the portal since it would be awesome to see the two interact! To me doesn’t matter though whether Cora makes it through or not – I believe now she’s in the picture she’s powerful enough to stay in it and it would be difficult to ignore her, sooner or later Cora and Regina will have to face each other! Last but not least – I DO hope that Henry for a change, somehow gets sucked into FTL (Archie’s fault? 😈 ), it will finally give a stir to it and maybe add some dynamics!
[adrotate group="5"]evilqueenParticipantHey, here’s an extended description (as compared to slurpees108 version) of Helena:
[from http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/11/10-spoilers-a-parenthood-surprise-vampire-diaries-does-holiday-cheer-and-a-new-glee-guy-is-introduce.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter%5D“In episode 13, we’re going to meet Helena, a well-bred lady of the courts who is also a fearless hunter. Here’s her official character description — any guesses as to her fairy-tale identity? “Female, late 20s to early – mid 30s, brunette. A confident, well-bred lady, Helena knows her way around kings and courts. She can sweet-talk with the best of them and can wrap any man around her finger. But Helena is also a fierce warrior, and takes immense pride in the deadly creatures she has fought and slain. A sophisticated lady who loves adventure — this highborn hunter will stop at nothing to get her quarry, even if she has to get her hands dirty.”
I think assuming it is Helena of Troy would be too straightforward and the writers wouldn’t give it away just like that. I would love it to be Xena or female Van Helsing!
This specific detail of her being brunette makes me think, maybe Pocahontas, in the end she was a high born princess and lived along forest creatures!evilqueenParticipant552
evilqueenParticipant@TimeSpacer wrote:
“Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards.”
this is so right,
ooh, please someone explain this to young Regina! 😮evilqueenParticipant‘pleasure of fight’? that’s evil! 😈
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evilqueenParticipantOh, I was wondering about the fairies too! 🙂
I am convinced that it’s not a coincidence that Bella is now reopening the library – or at least working on it. I hope sooner or later she will find more books like that and that might shed some lights on some people/circumstances/magic and all that jazz. And my first thought too was that it could’ve been the fairies writing it all up, in the end, they are powerful with magic and (hopefully) on the good site but then again – the Blue Fairy would surely know about it and she would go to the library first thing after the curse was broken – but that is assuming that there is more books like that.
But like we both said – there MUST be a reason why the town did have a library in the first place and then Regina closed it and it would be silly to omit this detail! Go Bella! 🙄evilqueenParticipant@Schmacky wrote:
I truly, truly hate the comparison that Emma giving Henry up for adoption is the same thing as Emma’s situation as a child. Talking about Emma’s perspective that she’s had for 28 years… being left abandoned on the side of a freeway… is nowhere near the same thing as giving your child up for adoption.
of course, damping someone on the side of the road is not as bad as an adoption but what I’m going on about is that Emma is not forgiving her parents for what they did, BEFORE OR AFTER she learnt the truth. She’s just assumed being dumped and that’s it, assuming the worst and not allowing any other possible explanations. What she did to Henry was exactly the same – she shut him off, it wasn’t just an adoption, it was a closed one too, meaning she stripped Henry of ever finding out about her, of ever knowing the real reasons of why she gave him up, allowing to think she hated the child and wanted to have nothing to do with it. Only Henry dealt with it the opposite way to her. I do hope we find out the exact circumstances of why and how she did this but so far an excuse of ‘wanting him to have a better life’ doesn’t convince me at all. Out of many people, she should know best that ‘a better life’ is meaningless without people who truly love you and she took this away from him, even though she was once this abandoned child. And then she argues with Snow and Charming that if they didn’t give her away, even though they would be under the curse, they would’ve been TOGETHER and she didn’t hide she would’ve really wanted that! Double standards? After all she did and went through, and all she learnt, THIS is what she has to say to her parents? It’s not like they did what they did with BAD intentions, they had hardly much choice and she KNEW that. After all the guesses for the possible reasons why she was ‘dumped’, she ends up with this, which is hardly a bad reason at all, definitely a lot better one than she had for leaving Henry. So excuse me if I call it hypocritical but to me it is just that.
That is also what I meant, when I said she keeps finding excuses and keeps digging, Shmacky: she might not be Regina, but she doesn’t deal well with emotions either and keeps finding excuses not to directly tackle them. So she ‘wants to give Henry better life’ and doesn’t have to deal with her love for him, doesn’t want to disappoint him. She doesn’t trust men ‘because of Neal’ (I admit, this is not a direct fact but it has been suggested). She doesn’t allow the Charmings in because ‘she’s been alone for all these years’. It is not as if she wasn’t looking for them all her life! And yet, she still shies away.evilqueenParticipantthis is the song i think of every time there is any reference to Alice in Wonderland.
So I guess, Jefferson, this one’s for you!“White Rabbit” – Shakespears Sister
evilqueenParticipantFine, I agree with you guys and I know the show wouldn’t be that dynamic if the things were introduced in a different way. By no means I want to defend Regina’s way of parenting Henry but the plot development throughout the beginning of the series was just really annoying and artificial to me, including how Henry managed to get all the way to Boston on Regina’s watch! Of course boy begged Emma to stay and it was what made her stick around, however she’s an adult and should’ve known better of the consequences of this decision, however hard it would be, and that once she gave in, she couldn’t possibly go back to her life as if nothing happened – even for the simple reason that she would’ve given the kid the hope and it would be purely cruel to snatch it away – logically, it would be just so much easier for the boy if she just left it there and then.
I know the circumstances of the whole case are different, as we learn on, but I guess my point is that Emma, as a character, keeps appearing as this slightly immature, lost person, that has a grudge on her childhood without her parents and cannot get it out of her way, even though, theoretically, she did the same thing – slightly hypocrytical? She cannot even bring herself to show some forbearance once she’s reunited with Snow and Charming, she just keeps digging, finding excuses. At the same time she’s meant to be this ‘saviour’? I guess the writers wanted to make it clear she’s far from perfect on many levels (thief, huh?) and show her development throughout the story. I get it. But that doesn’t make me like her any more because of it, maybe when she finally grows up…evilqueenParticipant@Elle, I am not defending Regina at all, I don’t know what I would do myself if someone one day came and sort of threatened to take my kid away, and I understand that eventually Emma did the right thing staying, but the whole build up to it seemed to me artificial and, to be honest, pretty annoying. She thought she would be no good for Henry, yet she ‘sticked around’, knowing full well Regina wouldn’t like it and it would just lead to numerous problems. Regina obviously loves her son so I don’t see why Emma suddenly decided to stay right after asking Mayor if she loved her son – if she truly had this superpower, she would’ve known better that. Also, what did really Emma think she would do if Regina indeed didn’t love Henry? Take him away? Emma gave up the kid long time ago and really had no right to reappear in his life and she should’ve known better. I don’t know, it sort of makes me feel sorry as it kinda shows that it’s ok to dump your kid and then try to come back to his/her life and that the people who actually took care of this child instead are the evil ones and not the “prodigal” parent. And actually no, it isn’t ok at all. There, I said it.
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