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I prefer Emma’s version. You can’t change who you are fundamentally; but you CAN become one of the possible versions of yourself, for better or for worse. That’s hope.
However, I’m not hugely surprised that August’s version was given more weight. “Hope” on OUAT is a buzzword, used profusely, yet superficially, without definition, exploration or depth. Several characters have, for instance, had unhappy endings, including death. What are we supposed to infer from this, OUAT being about “hope” and all? It could be that pain is part of life, but we can go on and even thrive. However, I’ve never felt that this was made clear. In recent times, I’ve had the impression that “hope” is about finding your perfect romantic partner and settling down and having 2.3 kids.
[adrotate group="5"]sciencevsmagicParticipantNo Jasper is a miracle. Good overall episode and I like that the plot is advancing steadily; it doesn’t feel like there are a ton of filler moments/threads (except Jasper…)
It was definitely a welcome break. They may be trying to make a point with Jasper, but it’s not working. I’m still gathering my thoughts about that article, but I’ll post them soon. Alongside Jasper, I’m still not sure what purpose Murphy and Emori serve this season. But I’m sure they have one, and unlike Jasper, they’re not annoying.
–Bellamy’s face when he realized Octavia is alive. 3.5 years in and the leading male’s strongest relationship is still with his sister, not a love interest.
Yes! I also like the connection he and Echo have. Not romance, not friendship…but intriguing just the same.
–That being said, is the show going to go Bellarke? Will it be significant? Just a hook up? I’ve never read them but apparently the books the show is based off of did have them as endgame.
I don’t want Bellarke, but I suspect it’ll happen. I’ve suspected it since S1 Ep 1. It’s just such a HUGE trope in television, that avoiding it would be like crossing a six inch wide plank across a 500 foot chasm with people yelling at you and shaking the plank.
–The stand off between our gang and Ice Nation felt like a solid, classic story of the 100. Conflicts between the various tribes are the bread and butter of the show. Also really liked Bellamy talking his friend out of murdering Roan.
Indeed! For the first time this season, the conflict hasn’t felt like a poor man’s version of season 3A. Roan finally came into his own. Previously, he felt like the king in a chess game; critical, but not doing a lot himself. Echo also showed depth beyond her usual ‘Down with Skaikru! Rah, rah, rah!’ That was also a big plus.
sciencevsmagicParticipantI quite enjoyed this week’s episode. ‘The Tinder Box’ was easily my favourite episode of Season 4 so far. For once, all the storylines were interesting, and I loved how the tension just kept rising and rising.
Some thoughts
– Niylah returns! Yay!
– It was great seeing particular groups of characters working together. Clarke and Roan. Bellamy and Echo. Monty and Harper. Octavia and Niylah. Raven, Abbey and Jackson.
– No Jasper – what a relief!
– I did not see that coming, but A+ for that shocking twist at the end.
– I no longer think the show will end with any 100. My new theory is that Raven will not only reverse engineer nightblood, but that Abbey will find a way to get others’ brains working in the same way as Raven’s. Utilising that much brain capacity, they might actually work out a way to make Earth habitable and live together peacefully.
sciencevsmagicParticipantHere is some good reading, for those so inclined:
http://www.hypable.com/why-the-100-is-the-best-political-show-on-television/
http://www.hypable.com/the-100-leave-jasper-alone/
I have a few ‘yeah but’s’ with the second article, but I’ll post them tomorrow. Feel free to leave your comments in the meantime.
sciencevsmagicParticipantI don’t think Lana’s performance as the EQ has been cringe worthy. Quite the contrary – I think she’s brought an energy to her scenes that the other cast have all been lacking. Maybe that’s why S6 has felt so flat to me. I thought the script was mostly to blame, but the acting has been lackluster, except for the EQ.
sciencevsmagicParticipantI wouldn’t watch it. I’m having a hard enough time sticking with it now. Lana’s great and everything, but I wouldn’t watch just for her – I’d need more. If they did a total reboot, with the same structure but completely new characters, then I might watch the premiere. But I doubt they’ll do that.
sciencevsmagicParticipantGetting everyone to sing their true feelings and secrets in order to bring the family together seems like a very Henry thing to do. Although, perhaps the singing itself is an unintended side effect.
sciencevsmagicParticipantI didn’t enjoy episode 4 as much as I was expecting to. The storyline about finding ALIE’s lab was just a lot of running around. Oh, and Nyko died, and that was sad. The Polis storyline had a couple of good moments, but that’s all it had. The Arkadia storyline was the one I was really looking forward to. In some ways, it didn’t disappoint, but I did have a few problems with it.
Here are my thoughts.
– Jasper is getting more annoying each episode. Yet, everyone continues to indulge him. This season, they’ve cast him as the archetypal trickster; he’s constantly up to some trick but also voices some inconvenient truths. Now, someone absolutely needs to take on the narrative function of being the antagonist to Chancellor! Clarke. But not Jasper. He’s gotten so annoying that I find myself automatically siding with Clarke every time he questions her, even if his point is reasonable. I mean, when everyone is working around the clock for their lives, he spends his time pulling pranks and breaking into the chancellor’s office. And yet, he gets treated like some tragic hero. It rankled me when Clarke apologised to HIM. Jasper needs to be taught a harsh lesson or he needs to go.
– When Jaha suggested the idea of the lottery, I suspected right away that he (and maybe the whole leadership group) is planning to mislead people, only to betray them at the very end by choosing exactly whom he wants.
– It’s starting to bug me the way everyone keeps questioning Clarke’s decisions in a really aggressive way. She’s saved them over and over again. Sure, she’s made mistakes and might still be making them. But it’s not like anyone else is the epitome of perfection. Take Harper for example. She was outraged at not being on the list. But wasn’t she the one who voted to save the 25 farm station survivors at the expense of the hydrogenerator? If she had voted differently, the list would have been a lot longer and she’d likely have been on it. Bellamy, Brian and Harper never got called out for sacrificing the hydrogenerator – a decision which will potentially cost 300 lives. Yet when Clarke tries to deal with the fallout, her decisions are picked at, and challenged and criticised to high heaven. Perhaps they’re trying to show the difficulties of leadership, but I find myself getting increasingly annoyed on Clarke’s behalf. Next time someone challenges her, I REALLY want to see Clarke snap and give them a piece of her mind.
– The most dramatic scene of the episode was Bellamy and Kane being told of Octavia’s death. I loved the tension in this scene. I loved Bellamy’s reaction. It was also interesting how long Roan and Echo hesitated before delivering the news. They might have some compassion after all.
sciencevsmagicParticipantI didn’t enjoy episode 4 as much as I was expecting to. The storyline of finding ALIE’s lab was just a lot of running around. Oh, and Nyko died, and that was sad. The Polis storyline had a couple of good moments, but that’s all it had. The Arkadia storyline was the one I was really looking forward to. In some ways, it didn’t disappoint, but I did have a few problems with it.
Here are my thoughts.
– Jasper is getting more annoying each episode. Yet, everyone continues to indulge him. This season, they’ve given him the narrative function of being the antagonist to Chancellor! Clarke. Now, someone absolutely needs to take on this role. But not Jasper. He’s gotten so annoying that I find myself automatically siding with Clarke every time he questions her, even if his point is reasonable. I mean, when everyone is working around the clock for their lives, he spends his time pulling pranks and breaking into the chancellor’s office. And yet, he gets treated like some tragic hero. It rankled me when Clarke apologised to HIM. Jasper needs to be taught a harsh lesson or he needs to go.
– When Jaha suggested the idea of the lottery, I suspected right away that he (and maybe the whole leadership group) is planning to mislead people, only to betray them at the very end by choosing exactly whom he wants.
– It’s starting to bug me the way everyone keeps questioning Clarke’s decisions in a really aggressive way. She’s saved them over and over again. Sure, she’s made mistakes and might still be making them. But it’s not like anyone else is the epitome of perfection. Take Harper for example. She was outraged at not being on the list. But wasn’t she the one who voted to save the 25 farm station survivors at the expense of the hydrogenerator? If she had voted differently, the list would have been a lot longer and she’d likely have been on it. Similarly, hardly a word was said to Bellamy about this decision as well. Yet when Clarke tries to deal with the fallout, she takes a lot of crap. Perhaps they’re trying to show the difficulties of leadership, but I find myself getting increasingly annoyed on Clarke’s behalf.
– The most dramatic scene of the episode was Bellamy and Kane being told of Octavia’s death. I loved the tension in this scene. I loved Bellamy’s reaction. It was also interesting how long Roan and Echo hesitated before delivering the news. They might have some compassion after all.
sciencevsmagicParticipantI didn’t enjoy episode 4 as much as I was expecting to. The storyline of finding ALIE’s lab was just a lot of running around. Oh, and Nyko died, and that was sad. The Polis storyline had a couple of good moments, but that’s all it had. The Arkadia storyline was the one I was really looking forward to. In some ways, it didn’t disappoint, but I did have a few problems with it.
Here are my thoughts.
– Jasper is getting more annoying each episode. Yet, everyone continues to indulge him. This season, they’ve given him the narrative function of being the antagonist to Chancellor! Clarke. Now, someone absolutely needs to take on this role. But not Jasper. He’s gotten so annoying that I find myself automatically siding with Clarke every time he questions her, even if his point is reasonable. I mean, when everyone is working around the clock for their lives, he spends his time pulling pranks and breaking into the chancellor’s office. And yet, he gets treated like some tragic hero. It rankled me when Clarke apologised to HIM. Jasper needs to be taught a harsh lesson or he needs to go.
– When Jaha suggested the idea of the lottery, I suspected right away that he (and maybe the whole leadership group) is planning to mislead people, only to betray them at the very end by choosing exactly whom he wants.
– It’s starting to bug me the way everyone keeps questioning Clarke’s decisions in a really aggressive way. She’s saved them over and over again. Sure, she’s made mistakes and might still be making them. But it’s not like anyone else is the epitome of perfection. Take Harper for example. She was outraged at not being on the list. But wasn’t she the one who voted to save the 25 farm station survivors at the expense of the hydrogenerator? If she had voted differently, the list would have been a lot longer and she’d likely have been on it. Similarly, hardly a word was said to Bellamy about this decision as well. Yet when Clarke tries to deal with the fallout, she takes a lot of crap. Perhaps they’re trying to show the difficulties of leadership, but I find myself getting increasingly annoyed on Clarke’s behalf.
– The most dramatic scene of the episode was Bellamy and Kane being told of Octavia’s death. I loved the tension in this scene. I loved Bellamy’s reaction. It was also interesting how long Roan and Echo hesitated before delivering the news. They might have some compassion after all.
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