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December 15, 2012 at 4:00 pm in reply to: Rumpelstiltskin was waiting for Belle to come back! #165127frumpybutsupersmartParticipant
@Marilou wrote:
another thing, I think it was in the episode “the shepherd” (could be wrong) where you see Rumplestilskin drinking from a flask (something tells me it wasn’t pumpkin juice) and acting kinda weird (even by rumplestilskin standards) I always thought this was not long after Belle left and was still kinda bummed out about it.
Drinking to help with the pain – Belle tried doing that too, in ‘Dreamy’.
[Also nice Harry Potter reference ;)]
[adrotate group="5"]frumpybutsupersmartParticipantIt did seem like he killed the giant, but bear in mind, the giant is … a giant, and Hook was chained up to begin with. And the giant probably took precautions and hid Jack’s sword before he let Hook loose. He also had ten hours to convince the giant that he was trustworthy, and I think he can be a convincing liar when he wants to be. So it’s entirely possible that he could have taken the bean and started climbing down the beanstalk before the giant could squish him.
frumpybutsupersmartParticipantIs it possible to hide someone’s heart in someone else? In Harry Potter, Horcruxes are possible because the soul is some intangible thing, but in OUAT, we’re talking about a physical, fist-sized piece of someone else (that also glows). Your insides are pretty jam-packed, it’s not like there’s room to keep an extra organ and not notice. It would be great if someone had to die to defeat Cora, though, especially if that someone was Regina.
frumpybutsupersmartParticipantI think it might have been before The Stable Boy – she’s been pretty lacking in empathy ever since we’ve known her. When Graham didn’t have his heart, he said he couldn’t feel anything emotional, so I’m guessing that Cora removed hers when she realised it could be a liability (“love is weakness”, after all). Her actions are still driven by wanting the best for her daughter, but since she lacks her heart, she has a problem with looking at things from Regina’s point of view, and has no qualms with ripping out the heart of the man her daughter loves.
frumpybutsupersmartParticipantHardly any major characters have actually died so far. It’s only the minor ones, like the previously unknown 8th dwarf Stealthy, and Ruby’s mother. They appear in one episode, then die. It’d be worse if every minor character they introduced either continued as a 2-dimensional character, or had to have time devoted to fleshing them out when they wouldn’t serve the major storyline much.
frumpybutsupersmartParticipantI don’t think this’ll actually happen, but imagine if Cora did hide her heart on a deserted island, and then Hook found it (since he’s a nod to Captain Jack Sparrow).
She probably has it locked up pretty tight in her heart vault, in a place where she won’t mix it up with any of the others. Or maybe in a higher-security section of the vault.
December 2, 2012 at 1:52 pm in reply to: Rumpel/Regina’s Redemption through Hook & Cora’s evilness #163247frumpybutsupersmartParticipant@medchen wrote:
What is VERY interesting here is actually how far out can the writers take a characters evilness, while the viewers still will be able too forgive them and want redemption for them??
They’ve already taken Regina and Rumple out pretty far. First one killed her own father, second one killed his former wife… But we can (I assume) all agree, that we can see redemtion and forgivness in their future.Is it as soon as we see just a glimmer of ‘human’ compassion or vulnerability in the character.. is that when we see the possibility of forgiveness, maybe because we then can recognise our selves in them and see that they are humans and not animals ????
I think it’s because it gives us hope that, no matter how low we could possibly sink, there’s always the possibility of redemption.
frumpybutsupersmartParticipant2) As far as overthrowing King George, most of the population of George’s country probably supported Charming. They didn’t know he wasn’t the “rightful” heir to the throne – they’d just seen the prince not marry Midas’ daughter (who subsequently married someone else) and King George go nuts and start hunting his own son. It wouldn’t have been hard to convince the mass population to follow Charming, seeing as they all thought he was the rightful heir anyway; and he’s pleasant, good in battle, good-looking, and had a wife who was the most kind and beautiful woman in all the lands. Then, once they’d overthrown Regina, they could form a bigger, wealthier nation by the marriage of Snow and Charming.
frumpybutsupersmartParticipant@Kellyn1604 wrote:
She probably still love him deep inside but also keeps those things as a reminder of what to guard herself against. Lots of people keep things like that to remind them of what they lost so they can make sure it doesn’t happen again.
Like the giant keeping the dead bean.
frumpybutsupersmartParticipantMaybe magic works so differently in this world that he’s not physically changing back. Also, he’s actively trying not to go back to being that person because of Belle’s influence.
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