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In “Tallahassee” August asks Neal “Do you believe in Magic?”

That’s the title of a song originally by ‘Lovin’ Spoonful’ which was featured in the film “Return to Neverland”.

Just as there is a Grateful Dead song, written about the real Neal Cassady, “The Other One”….that song references Neverland also.

Music has as much influence as the mythology, classic literature/films, etc when it comes to K&H.
It did with LOST, too.

LOST is where the fictional band Geronimo Jackson, which is based on The Grateful Dead, originated.
Neal has a Geronimo Jackson sticker on his ipod, Emma has one on her car and Henry had a CD in his backpack.

P.S. –
I know I posted most of this, at TheGoldenKey’s request, in her theory, I just wanted to summerize it here for reference sake 🙂

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Remember, Rumpelstiltskin is the master of loopholes and plotting, it only figures that the previous Dark One is similar. Plus, Zoso wants to die. He has had enough of life, and wants someone to kill him so he is put out of his misery. It figures, because the Dark One is immortal, Zoso probably has seen all his loved ones die. He probably can’t kill himself, just like Rumpel couldn’t make himself go through the portal. The curse posseses you at such a moment, keeping you back. Therefor having the knife himself would be useless. He needed a poor schmuck that was desperate to do so: Rumpel

SpinningGold –
I get all that and I agree.

My point us, Zoso was being controlled by the owner of the dagger, so, how could he disguise himself as a beggaer to get to Rumple, the “desperate soul” to begin with?
How is it, he was able to go out in the world and set things in motion to determine his own fate if he was being controlled?

Does that mean the one who holds the dagger has limited control over The Dark One?

If so, does Rumple know this? It could be helpful if Cora or Hook, or anyone for that matter, got ahold of the dagger and tried to control Rumple

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Yeah, she’s in the S1 finale, too, so this will make her 3rd appearance.

Jefferson gives her the spiked tea and knocks her out so he can get to Belle.

In the movie, Nurse Ratched kept all the patients drugged.

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Lol GoldenKey….

That is too funny 😆

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Well, I definitely don’t consider The Dark One a genie 🙂

And if he can be ordered not to take the dagger, couldn’t he just as easily be ordered not to use his free will for anything?

I don’t think The Dark One is free to do as he pleases when he’s not on a ‘mission’.
It was never alluded to in any way.

So, the question still remains, how was he able to get to Rumple in the first place?

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Phee is absolutely right.
That was a def nod to One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

Ken Keasey wrote the novel and was friends with Jack Kerouac.

Jack Kerouac used the Real Neal Cassady as inspiration for his character Dean Moriarty in his novel ‘On the Road’.

Keasey used Neal as inspiration for the character Mac in ‘One Flew Over the Cuskoo’s Nest’.

Love how they connect everything 🙂

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Zoso was able to pull it off because he only needs to do what he is summoned for when someone has the knife. If they have no mission for him, he is “free” to do what he wants.

I don’t think that’s the case, but, if that were true, if Cora and/or Hook get ahold of the dagger, and are not holding it to summon Rumple to do their bidding at any given moment, then Rumple would still have an opportunity to kill either one or both of them, get the dagger back and he’d be right back where he was before they took it.

Same with Zoso, if he ‘s free to do what he wants when the dagger is not being put to use, why not kill the holder of the dagger, and take it back? If Zoso was in possion of dagger when he was the Dark One, he would’ve had freedom to weild his power the way he wanted, like Rumplestiltskin did.

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Rumplestiltskin – on the word of an old begggar, a stranger (who, unbeknown to him, was The Dark One) – made a plan, set the Duke’s castle on fire, scaled the wall, enterd the ‘foyer’ that held the dagger, stole it right out from under the Duke’s nose, all while running the risk of coming into contact with Hordor and the knights at any given moment, knowing that his actions would ultimately summon The Dark One – a terrifying, menacing being.
He actually summoned The Dark One and proceeded to kill him, assuming his powers.

Those just don’t seem like the actions of a true coward to me.

To depict Rumplestiltskin as such a coward, then to show him risking his life doing what he did….he was less of a coward at that moment than when he had his Dark One powers and let Bae go into the vortex alone.

I don’t know if there’s more to it, or that’s just how they chose to move the story forward, but, it made me stop and think, because that was out of character for Rumplestiltskin, imo.

If Zoso was controlled by the owner of the dagger, how was he able to get to Rumple in the first place?

And the fact that Rumple pulled it off flawlessly, without a hitch???

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I mean: Frankenstein e.g. wasn’t so much surprised about that fact that Rumple was colored. I think, his reaction was just: “Oh a foreigner.”

I was under the impression that Victor Frankenstein could only see in black & white.

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I would think that if Rumple still had the full power of the Dark One he would be able to just rip Hook’s heart out and not bother wasting time beating him with his cane.

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