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I think it would make more sense that the Blue Fairy just changed her face to look like the Black Fairy, not that they are two halves. Jekyll created that potion that made the two halves, so that shouldn’t exist way in the past. If the Blue Fairy is Rumpel’s mother and pretends to be the Black Fairy sometimes then that works. Or i guess it would be that she was originally the Black Fairy and pretends to be the Blue Fairy.
I think the sisters thing works too. The Blue Fairy is shady though and i think her playing same game make sense.
[adrotate group="5"]A savior dying also kind of has less weight now that we gods can revive people from death. Jesus was a savior and he came back. So the vision could be true, Emma may be on the path to death, but she will come back due to her saviorness. I wouldn’t like that, but its in the realm of possibility (heh….why does realm of possibility sound like world A&E would actually think up lol) Anyway, we really haven’t gotten much savior mythology have we. Like…we haven’t learned much about how many saviors there have been, what makes someone a savior, nothing. All we know is saviors eventually die.
I can’t imagine them actually doing the whole the gods bringing Emma back from life, especially after they did that last season with Hook and how much people hated it. Though, like you said, because they did it in the past and the trope of it all, then it certainly is a possibility.
We really haven’t gotten much savior mythology at all, except they are fated to die, whatever that means. We haven’t heard any stories or examples of what happened to saviors. Aladdin is the only way and he clipped his saviorness before anything could come of it, so he isn’t really the norm, i would think. That is why i think they are going to show Jasmine and Aladdin take Agrabah back because that will be foreshadowing to what will happen with Emma. The whole multiple saviors thing is another thing they just pulled out of nowhere this year. There was no foreshadowing to that at all.
The one thing they said besides fate is their death is that every savior has a villain. Now we all think that Gideon is Emma’s villain, but who knows. Though really, the writers may just forget what the characters said in the early episodes and it won’t mean anything. There has to be something to that first episode though, right? I mean they cold open with Jafar and Aladdin shaking, that has to all come back around for the ending, though as far as we know by then Aladdin had already clipped his saviorness and Agrabah had already fell. How did Aladdin even get to Storybrooke? I know, i know, my questions are pointless.
They just have the characters say stuff they shouldn’t know. For instance, Arthur tells Guinevere that the dagger is part of Excalibur even though there is no reason he should know it or the reason wasn’t shown. They usually use stuff when the plot needs it and then forget about it, like the sorcerer’s mansion in the storybrooke. I find it futile to try and pick those things up because in the end they won’t mean anything, ther won’t be a satisfying conclusion and we will get only twists like the black fairy is Rumple’s mother (how did we not see that twist, that was never forshadowed or never had any hints or clues, coming?!?)
Exactly. The writers trick write now. Just randomness without any foreshadowing behind it. There was no foreshadowing that the Black Fairy was Rumpel’s mother. There were things about Rumpel not liking the fairies, but that seemed to go back to what happened with Bae and just general distrust for the fairies since they are so unhelpful to the common person.
That is sort of where i am at as well. There is nothing to figure out. Emma will be mostly dead after being stabbed by Gideon then true loves kiss and it is over. I still think they just have to develop the Blue Fairy’s backstory, but really i just can’t believe it has gone on this long without doing that. Now that they have introduced the Black Fairy, they have to explain what is between the Black Fairy and the Blue Fairy. And there needs to be something between them.
When did Emma start having her shakes? Was it when she touched something by the dirigible? I keep thinking that there might be some sort of convoluted thing going on here where Jafar has somehow spelled Emma to have these shakes and see these visions. We see in the Aladdin flashback that Aladdin was fine until he met Jafar and looked into his staff. Also, Hyde just knew too much about things that it didn’t make sense that he would know. He said he met another savior and that was why he knew all the stuff about saviors, but who would that have been. It wasn’t Aladdin because Aladdin has been in Storybrooke for the last 30 years. What if he instead just met Jafar and the bird is Jafar. That would then fit with the oracle being all shady and having the red bird and the glowing staff .
It is hard to even know if the writers are actually hinting at something or if they are just having the characters say stuff that doesn’t really mean anything. This show used to have hints to things that could be figured out, but it has been a long time since that was true. Usually now, the writers forget what the characters have said and what happens is instead really straight forward.
If i was to guess, i think that the vision of Emma getting stabbed will come true, that will be the piece of her future that is inevitable like the oracle said. Also, the whole death is every saviors fate is a stupid line. Death is everyone’s fate. The thing is that the oracle did say that on the day Emma saw, in the battle she saw, that she would die, so if Emma dies, she will just be brought back, probably with true love’s kiss. That seems like the inevitable conclusion at this point. What was seen in the vision will happen, but Emma will be saved and be fine. It may even be shown in comparison to what will happen when they show Aladdin and Jasmine take back Agrabah and Aladdin will die and Jasmine will kiss him and he will live.
Also, Sidney was locked in the hospital for quite while. There is no reason that he can’t be down there. I can’t believe that still exists as an acceptable thing. Especially since Regina still just tosses people down there and forgets about them.
The show being about hope is not about the characters on the show just hoping for random things. In the show, the characters are all hoping to get their happy ending. They hope that good will win, whether through defeating the bad guys or having them turn into “good” guys, aka “redemption”, so that they can get their happy endings. Emma helps people like Cinderella and her sister, so they can get their happy ending. Emma is afraid if she clips her saviorness away with the shears that everyone she has helped will lose their happy endings. Regina’s arc for the entire show has been about getting and losing and starting over the path to finding her happy ending.
Happy endings on this show are just being with a guy and having a kid, as much as the writers want to pretend at times that it is something else, that is what it has become. I think they are trying to fix that with Snow going on about things getting back to normal this season, but still the characters haven’t talked about anything that equates to stability except with Snow teaching again.
It comes back to the writers being unable to write good character moments. Emma is dating someone, but they haven’t talked about all of the things that they should have talked about and probably never will. Emma still hasn’t and never will, in my opinion, ever talk about all her childhood, growing up alone, issues in the detail that would make sense for the characters. These problems exist for all the characters and if the writers actually did the character work then the show would feel hopeful, but they pretty much are like: they hugged, we said they are family, they live together, they are married, they have a baby. They are done. This is a happy ending.
I just watched the fourth episode and i am still thinking this show is just really really slow. They are still primarily world building and it is four episodes in. I think i am going to wait until the rest of the season airs before i watch anymore of it. I just don’t care about the characters at all. Not even one of them is all that likeable and most of them are just down right boring. There are too many point of view characters a well. It’s unfortunate because i want to like it.
Except, my first sentence was that Jennifer has implied she wants off the show, but would be willing to do one more season. That is exactly what i said. That is what she said. She said she doesn’t want to do this forever. Jennifer said that. I also am not going to just pretend that she is completely happy with the direction of the show when everything about her behavior and the way she has talked about the show implies otherwise.
Jennifer has been more interested in her other projects for years. When she does outside interviews, that Nerd HQ or the recent interview, she talks about her other projects. Sure, when she is at an Ouat event she talks about Ouat because that is part of her job. The actors are given talking points. Jennifer is told she has to stand next to Colin. Jennifer’s contract is up. She now has a little bit of an upper hand. She can say that she is ready to move on because she is the main character and removing Emma from the story would change everything. It is of value to her to say that, not only because it is true, but because it gives her an upper hand in negotiating because she could take it or leave it. It is of value to her if she is renegotiating her contract for one more year to have fans and interviewers asking Adam and ABC if she is leaving. She wants to finish off the character, but she wants to move on. That is the decision she has to make and there are moving parts within that decision.
