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Like i said which is why it works as Rumpel. And it works when he is trying to be shady and manipulative and secretive. He can do his creepy little smiles and hand flourishes. But then when he is trying to be quiet and still and emotional and true to his feelings i don’t think it works. It always seems off to me. And i thought that well before i got annoyed with the fandom’s reaction to the character. Like when Desperate Souls came out before this forum existed i think most people generally considered that a terrible episode because while it was interesting to get some of Rumpel’s back story the episode just didn’t feel true, but then after Skin Deep when people started to like Rumpel more then everyone liked Desperate Souls which, in my opinion, is still the worst episode of the series.
Though honestly he has gotten much better. He was great in the scene when Bae got sucked through the vortex and he was great when he was talking to Charming about the love he lost. Though i don’t think that the Rumpel/Belle reunion when she remembered was all that great, but that was more Belle’s reaction then the acting.
[adrotate group="5"]No. That is not fair. I think that Emma is the main character of the show. The writers have stated that. That is the only reason i think the first episode should be about her. It has nothing to do with her being my favorite character though i do think that the only reason everyone wants Rumpel to be the centric of the first episode is because it is their favorite character.
And i do think that both of the Rumpel episodes could be pulled and the show would still make sense. I think they were good character development to understanding Rumpel’s character, but in general they have had very little bearing on the show as a large. Like we don’t need to know why Rumpel became the dark one to understand that he is the dark one. And so far Belle has been an afterthought though they may actually develop her character in the future. I forgot about the third Rumpel episode where Rumpel loses Bae through the vortex. That was important to the plot of the story because it actually explained his motivation a bit and the scene where Bae was sucked away was very emotional. That was one of Ropert’s best scenes.
I do think that Rumpel is fairly black and white as a character. He just always does the evil thing, in my opinion. That is sort of it. Maybe in the future they will show something different, but as of now he let Bae go and fall through the vortex, he yelled at Belle, grabbed her threw her to the floor, and then sent her out of the castle, he killed the fairy godmother, he burned down the castle and killed the dark one to take his power and knowing did all of those things. He just does the evil thing in the situation. I think that everyone wishes he would make different choices, but when it comes down to it he does things like causes a fire to get what he wants instead of doing something else. That just is Rumpel.
And i like him in his manipulation of events to get his end which is finding Bae, i do not like it if he just SEES everything. I don’t get why people would want that for the character.
Well i think the family part of the show and how Emma feels about Snow and Charming is going to be something that is going to be worked on throughout the entire season.
They are definitely going to do what is going on with Rumpel scenes. In my opinion though, Emma is the emotional center of the show and the character who has had the most growth in season 1 and i think that she is the main character and is going to continue to be where that thing about the show exists. Rumpel will continue doing his effecting Emma’s plot and Snow and Charming’s plot and he will continue to look for Bae.
Though maybe now that he knows that Regina did something to Belle he will actually fight against her because until now he hasn’t cared about Regina at all. So maybe the two of them will actually enter into conflict with each other.
Either way there cannot be spoilers out there that are already stating what centric the first episode is going to be. I don’t think that could be known at this point.
I know that people think he is great, but i don’t. I think that he overacts. I mean it works as Rumpel, but it doesn’t work when he is trying to get emotional. It always comes off as over the top to me. I never really buy any of it. That is one of the reasons i think Desperate Souls is such a bad episode. That and the plot is wonky. It makes it difficult to read what was actually going on in the episode. I think we have to wait and see.
I think good acting is you watch a character and their body language conveys what they are trying to convey in the scene through dialogue, like you can read them like you read people in the real world, and i think that at times Robert is so over the top that that is difficult to do that with his character. It doesn’t feel real or consistent to me and i have always felt this way about the character even before i got annoyed with his fandom. I don’t mind the character so much as a character.
Honestly we just need more information.
I agree a_desperate_soul. We are not disagreeing. I just don’t think that there is the need for foreknowledge for Rumpel to do that. Rumpel put the egg in the dragon because he knows Regina well and he knew that she couldn’t resist to bring Maleficent over because he knows her and not because he SAW it. There is no reason for any SEEING to be happening for Rumpel to do that. And Rumpel made the curse so he knew that it was going to take them to a land without magic and he knew that maybe he should bring a bottle of the most powerful love. And then once he got there he realized that the magical wells were still part of this world in some way so he though i should get that bottle of love and put it in the well and bring magic back because magic is power and i want power. It seems like logic and thought and not necessarily foreknowledge.
Right. I think that the true loves kiss brought “light to the darkness” like Mary said, but it did not actually break the curse and was not the thing that broke the curse. The realm jumping has still not been undone. And the fairy is still a human and Jiminy still a man and so on and so forth. At least before the purple smoke monster of doom rolled over the town. Though i do think that they are still going to keep everyone human in Storybrooke except possibly August. They may have to try and fix him.
And like you said it seems to me that descending into all out war in the streets would be too much too fast when they still can do other things with the show. And it would take away from the emotional impact if the characters are just always in a war setting though i do think that in a way they are in a life or death situation whether they know it or not, but that is life.
It doesn’t seem like Rumpel has learned anything. I actually thought that the incident with Bae getting sucked into the vortex may have caused him to learn something, but it doesn’t seem so. He still seems to just want power and will do anything to get it. The character needs to grow a bit. He has become pretty static and predictable, in my opinion. I mean i am sure everyone was screaming at the television don’t give Rumpel the egg, Emma, you can’t trust that guy.
Like i said i agree that none of it has been confirmed, but when it came down to it Rumpel didn’t deny any of it even in front of Bae which makes me think based on the very little information we have that it is all true until we are told otherwise. And we don’t know if Bae’s mother was a loved one. We don’t know anything at all about her except she is dead.
It is just that so far both of the Rumpel episodes could be pulled from the show, at least the fairytale world parts, and the show would still make perfect sense, so i would actually consider them both filler at least the fairytale land parts. So far his character is mostly used to help the other characters on their quests and such, so if they do a Rumpel episode for the first episode of Season 2 then it needs to be grounded in the present day conflict in fairytale land.
The episode with Belle was not at all relevant to the main plot of the show. The episode where we saw Rumpel become the dark one is a good back story episode, but not relevant to the main present day conflict because most of the characters on the show were not even alive at the time of the events of Rumpel becoming the dark one.
And honestly i think they need for the first episode to be an Emma episode. Just like the pilot was and the finale was of Season 1 just because the premise of the show is that Emma is the new fairytale character and the show is her story.
And i do not think it is fair to say that i don’t like the character and that is it. I just do not see Rumpel as enough of a main character and honestly i find his agenda boring. He wants to find Bae so do that already. I hope he can’t see the future, because if he can that makes his character even less interesting, in my opinion. I think what is interesting about the character is his manipulation of the events to get to this point and if it was not manipulation and just he saw it. I find that boring and contrived.
