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Regarding whether Emma’s name was the trigger for Gold’s memories–Kitsis basically confirmed this (Horowitz also mentioned that the issue would be explored this season).
Potentially spoilery source: http://youtu.be/c1OXRubP8RoGetting back to the Blue Fairy/Mother Superior, after re-watching this episode I realized that you can kind of hear bits of dialogue between her and August when they’re walking out of the convent. I thought I heard August say something about his body, and Mother Superior telling him not to do anything rash, to come to her before he thinks of doing anything, and that things will work out. This only increases my suspicion that she knows.
As to which side she’s on: I tend to agree with the view that her use of power is primarily about maintaining order, at least according to her idea of the way things should be. She seems concerned about keeping everyone and everything in their proper place–dwarves should stay in the mines and should not mingle with fairies (just make our fairy dust, be happy and don’t ask questions–how convenient for them), fairy godmothers help certain people but not others…
After all, if the Blue Fairy is really the ultimate power, why couldn’t she have done more? To stop the Ogre Wars, to lift other people like Cinderella out of poverty, to prevent Geppetto’s parents from being turned into puppets…it’s like the ultimate divinity question…where are the gods when you need them (who are they in the Enchanted Lands, anyway?)
(On a random note, whenever I think of her I can’t get that Beatles song out of my head…”Mother Superior jumped the gun…”)
[adrotate group="5"]@mia wrote:
The photo on the article doesn’t look like the girl with braids we saw on 7:15. o.ô
You mean in True North? Looks like that photo was separate:
Another interesting thing was pointed out about this newspaper article in another thread:
@malchore wrote:
Actually the byline of the newspaper article said, “A local boy discovers a newborn wrapped in a blanket…” Well, the phrase “a local boy” would be used only if the boy is already known to the local community. Otherwise, what is he local to?
If Pinocchio came through to “our world” shortly before Emma did, how could he be considered a “local boy”? Unless the reporter just didn’t bother to check…
I think the shock factor is not actually that Regina would do something like this, but that David is involved. Because as far as the whole “dark territory, not-so-kid friendly, sleeping around thing” is concerned, we’ve already seen Regina’s rape/manipulation of the Huntsman/Graham. We’ve glimpsed the depths to which she is willing to descend to get what she wants–we just didn’t expect that it would lead here.
Random moment: A bizarre image crossed my mind of Regina giving David an enchanted apple that messes with his head in an almost Garden of Eden-ish sort of way… 😯
If August isn’t Baelfire, I have to wonder what the explanation will be for his connection to Mr. Gold. I guess you never know with these writers… 😉
By the way, did anyone take a look at the guest stars in the press release for this episode?
Guest starring are David Anders as Dr. Whale, Anastasia Griffith as Kathryn/Abigail, Keegan Connor Tracy as Mother Superior/Blue Fairy, Meghan Ory as Ruby/Red, Giancarlo Esposito as Sidney/Magic Mirror, Beverley Elliott as Granny, Dylan Schmid as Baelfire, Conner Dwelly as Morraine, Greyston Holt as Jim/Frederick, Gabe Khouth as Mr. Clark/Sneezy, Michael Coleman as Happy, Mig Macario as Bashful, Jarod Joseph as Billy, Christina Gooding as mute maid and Michael Roberds as donkey driver.
Interesting list.
One name in particular jumped out at me upon second glance:
Morraine. The girl who was taken by the soldiers at the beginning of Desperate Souls. 😯
What a fun idea, and such creative claims! Now watch me attempt to restrain myself from all the things I want to get my hands on… 😆
Would it be possible to somehow claim Jefferson’s perception of reality? Because that part about stories and imagination and real worlds made me happy beyond words.
Also, can I keep Archie’s therapy sessions? Or is that too unspecific? If so, I can wait on this one.
Oh, and I can’t resist…I’d love to have the Storybrooke town charter.
Okay, that’s enough…for now… 😆 I’m sure I’ll want more things from future episodes…
@Riddleraven wrote:
The only questions I have are 1) how do you explain his age only changing a bit over so many centuries and 2) why exactly would Baelfire escape to our world?
Exactly. I’ve considered those questions before, and so far I have no answer that is clear or makes sense. Fountain of youth? Fairy magic protected him and he was saved from the curse like Emma? 😐 The Baelfire theory is a tricky one, and one that I am well aware may not happen. I guess there’s just something about it that appeals to me for some reason. ❓
Even if August was spared because came from somewhere outside Fairytale Land–what happened to all the other people in Never Never Land or wherever? Seems like there would be too many people remembering their past.
Another possible identity I find interesting is the 7-year-old boy who found baby Emma on the side of the road. In fact, this is what Emma was reading about in her files moments before August first arrived in Storybrooke (Ep. 9 “True North”). What if the boy actually saw the baby appear out of nowhere, got curious about what he had seen, and became determined to figure out what had happened?
The math seems to add up. 7-year-old boy + 28-year-old Emma = 35 years, which is the age of Eion Bailey, the actor who plays August.
Also, August did refer to himself as a “believer.” Did his faith in what he had seen lead him to become interested in magic or other worlds?
If August did find baby Emma, could this have something to do with how Gold found baby Henry for Regina? Could August have been in contact with Gold before? Did August help track Emma/Henry down? Did he work with Gold to make the book?
Could this help explain how August learned so much about Fairytale Land, Storybrooke, and Henry’s book? But then why did he look familiar to Regina? She said he was “someone new” and did not say anything about seeing him in Storybrooke before. She said no one else seemed to recognize him either. Even if he had somehow been to Storybrooke, why did he check with Emma to make sure where he was and and ask where he could find a place to stay? Could he somehow be pretending to be a stranger?
Just posted these thoughts on another site–thought I’d leave them here to see what you all think.
I think there’s a good reason why Henry can’t seem to figure out who Mr. Gold is…yet (as he said to Emma in episode 4).
I think there’s also a good reason why August wants to “help others see the light” by adding pages to Henry’s book.
I think these two reasons are related.
Rumplestiltskin is the only character that apparently knows or has been involved in practically everyone’s story, right up until Emma is saved from the curse. This is why I’m inclined to think that Mr. Gold is the writer of the book, not August. That would certainly help keep him busy while waiting for Emma to show up in Storybrooke.
And if he were to write the book, I think he would leave himself out of the stories. Keeping his identity and involvement secret would help him maintain power. It keeps the focus on Regina and away from his own agenda, which is apparently not for anyone to know but himself.
“No one knows my little game—Rumplestiltskin is my name.”
Maybe August doesn’t just want Emma to know about the curse itself. Maybe he also wants her to know the truth about who is really behind it—who is behind everything.
So he added Rumplestiltskin back into the stories.
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Incidentally, August and Rumple have some uncanny similarities. Their reluctance to give their names, their careful choice of words and attention to technicalities…and their knowledge of both Storybrooke and Fairy Tale Land.
This is what attracted me to the possibility that August might be connected to Baelfire in some way, either as the same person or as a descendant perhaps. Because Emma was saved from the curse, we know that fairy magic can cross worlds, and if Rumple’s son escaped using fairy magic, then…
That might explain why
- Rumple hates fairies
- Rumple was never able to find his son
- Regina said August looked familiar, but couldn’t recognize him (Could this be part of the spell? Would Mr. Gold recognize him? Would anyone?)
- August knows so much without being from Storybrooke (immune to the curse)
- The episode about how Rumple ”lost” Bae is called “The Return.” (And according to Jane Espenson, the Blue Fairy is in it.)
- The episode after that one happens to be called “The Stranger.”
Conclusion: As Henry reveals the truth about Regina, August’s purpose may be to reveal the truth about Mr. Gold.
@DanielJLewis 😆 I would love to see that!
Thank you for the warm welcomes!
@mia: Oh, I don’t know about my theorizing skills–my luck seems to be mixed so far, hehe. I’ve just barely scratched the surface of this mythology stuff, so we’ll see.And yes, Beauty and the Beast is another one of my favorite tales! Loved Skin Deep! Your quote about the rose is fitting. 😉
@Lissy: Glad you like it! It’s one of my favorite poems.And oh yes…that laugh. 😆 This compilation comes in handy whenever I need a giggle myself:
http://youtu.be/EY-qFkgrRyw
