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Ohh, RG, I knew there were some things missing:
- Tamara is RH and Marian’s daughter. Yeah, I’m a supporter of that, too.
- Rumple undoing is losing his power. I think Rumple is going to lose his Dark One powers, too, and maybe is falling away, but then that is when we’re going to get our big True Love’s Kiss from Rumbelle. Mirrors the book where Belle saves the Beast from dying.
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With Jefferson being a portal-jumper, he could be born just about anywhere. So maybe he was originally from Fictional London. The locking his daughter up could just as well be because his son ran away to another land and disassociates with them now.
But really I’m leaning toward Theory #1 where the Red Queen and Alice are sisters. Makes much more sense.
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So if the Red Queen was married to Jefferson, she became evil somehow after Grace was born and Jefferson “lost” her as part of his work. She abandoned them.
Theory #1
Red Queen and Alice are sisters but maybe Alice doesn’t recognize her because of her evilness or something, or she does know her. Could go either way.
Theory#2.
Okay, this is kind of a wild theory, and I just want to advise you all that I’m on cold medication so it might be the meds talking, but what if the Red Queen and Alice were sisters-in-law. That would make Jefferson and Alice brother and sister…and the Red Queen her sister-in-law at one point. I know quite a few sisters-in-law that have a huge rivalry and can’t stand each other. Always trying to outdo the other. Maybe the Red Queen sees her as a threat.
Okay, I went from last year convinced that Jefferson and Alice were married to tonight making them brother and sister. Eddy and Adam are driving me insane!
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I really doubt if we actually get a Regina romance in the first 11 episodes. Just that we meet him.
Sometimes you wonder how they’re going to fit in everything they want to do in the first 11 episodes that they’ve talked about. I think this is one thing that’s going to be teased but doesn’t come to be until the second half of the season.
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I think Neal did a little more realm hopping than we think. Remember this snippet:
2 x 14 “Manhattan”
Henry: Don’t worry. Emma’s really good at catching people.
Mr. Gold: Well, my son’s been running away for a long time now. Now I have a feeling he’s equally adept at it.
I always got the feeling from that little comment that he’s come close before. Glimpses of Bae here or there and then lost. Somehow he knew he ended up in “The Land Without Magic”. I wouldn’t be shocked if one of Bae’s hops was briefly to Oz.
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KP, this one is for you. Evidently it’s all coincidence. 😉
@KelJo77 yep!
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) September 11, 2013
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
The problem with that, the someone mentioned, is that MGM owned the Ruby slippers. They’d have to get the rights to them. I think they’ll go with the Silver shoes in the book.
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It’s a funny visual though to picture MRJ in ruby slippers….(though they’ll likely have to do silver slippers due to MGM copyright on the ruby ones, and was silver in the book anyway. They don’t have to be high heeled women’s shoes…slippers could be like house shoes that both men and women wear).
Am I missing something? Rumple doesn’t have the slippers. They escaped into the world he wanted to go to, eluding that Dorothy took them back to Kansas with her. They’d be out of Neal’s clutches just like they were out of Rumple’s.
2 x 05 “The Doctor”
Jefferson: I got what you wanted.
(Jefferson hands Rumpelstiltskin a crystal ball.)
Rumpelstiltskin: What about the slippers?
Jefferson: Oh. Couldn’t find ‘em. Heard talk they’ve already been moved to another land.
Rumpelstiltskin: That’s what I needed to get to that other land.
Jefferson: Well, come with me in my hat. I’m sure we can work something out.
Rumpelstiltskin: No, no. Your hat only transports between magical realms. I need to get to a land without magic.
Jefferson: Why would anyone want that?
Rumpelstiltskin: My business.
Jefferson: You want the ball or not?
(He takes the crystal ball.)
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Sorry about the mix-up. It was Slurpeez and not RG. 🙂
It probably is a post-production thing.
You never know about Rumple. He kept his limp in Storybrooke as a remind. Who knows how his mind really works.
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I think RG is correct and that the pole is Rumple’s walking stick. Look at the ends. They’re similar. Not curved, but cylindrical. Or it could be like Angie said and it will be put in post-production, which was my original thought but now that that RG posted that pic I really think it’s Rumple’s walking stick.
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