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*claps happily* Yay, Neal! Yay, Emma going to find Bae! Yay, Emma taking Henry with her!
So everyone has their theories, here’s mine. Gold gives Emma something that belonged to Bae, probably the leather ball, and the locating potion and sends her off into the universe, or at least over the Storybrooke town line, to find his son. She, along with Henry who she obviously takes with her since it causes much more drama to meet his papa this way, track him down in NYC. Now the running away is either two things. First, he runs from her because she calls him Bae so he bolts. She takes off after him. Or the other option, Henry, not listening to his mother to stay somewhere safe, eavesdrops on their conversation, realizes Neal is his dad and takes off. Neal takes off after Henry and Emma takes off after Neal.
What a lovely little family we have. 😀
What I’m most excited about is the possibility of all three returning to Storybrooke in the yellow bug! 😆
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You don’t know how happy I was to see this thread title. I was staying away from posting because everything has been revolving around Hook on these boards lately. I really felt I was the only one, besides a few others I’ve been talking to, that didn’t obsess over the character.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Neither Hook nor Rumple are the type to forget and forgive. Hook has spent too long focussed on his quest for revenge to let Rumple get away with what he did. The two characters can’t coexist peacefully in the same town. Either one has to kill the other or Hook has to leave Storybrooke.
Yes, yes, yes. Something has to give, and since the series is pivoted around Rumple, I don’t see him being the one who leaves and Hook staying. They might love their new plaything in Colin, but they wrote the main role with Robert in mind long before they even knew they could get Robert. I give no creedance to Eddie’s and Adam’s gloating. They love Emilie, but Belle has had some pure crappy storylines since becoming a regular.
I’m also not relying on the “series regular” label for keeping Hook on the show. We know from the past that doesn’t mean anything. Graham was a regular and killed in the seventh episode of season one. Archie and August were regulars and then got demoted. And Ruby and Belle had better storylines when one was a recurring and the other a guest star. Part of me would love to have the chaos of Hook being killed off. Just to see if all of the people claiming to leave the show would. I didn’t see the Graham-lovers, although they still lament his fate, leaving, so I don’t think the Hook sympathizers will do it, either. This show is much bigger than one person.
I’m assuming he plans to kill Rumple by stabbing him with the dagger. I speculated recently that Hook would in fact stab him, but it wouldn’t kill him, and Belle’s love would somehow save him, and then the Dark One curse will cease to exist because it can’t go back into Rumple, and if Rumple’s not dead, then it can’t move on to someone new either. If something like that happened, Hook would inadvertantly save Rumple’s soul whilst attempting to kill him, which would be sort of poetic…and would piss Hook right off…the moment he’s been plotting for almost 300 years, and it all goes completely wrong…talk about unsatisfying revenge.
I’ve always thought that the series finale will be Rumple/Gold dying and Belle bringing him back from the dead with her tears or kiss, like in the story “Beauty and the Beast”. But I figured he’s too big of a figure to do it earlier than the end, but these are the people who broke the curse in the first season. Nobody saw that coming. It would be wild if they broke Rumple’s curse in the end of Season Two and then he used his knowledge to help the Charming’s win in the “final battle”. I would also suspect that he would also be able to still perform magic. It seems sometimes, like in Regina’s case and even MM’s using the ink, that magic can be learned. I don’t see all that centuries of knowledge just disappearing with a kiss.
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Series regular doesn’t necessarily mean for the rest of the series. Archie and August were demoted this year and I got the impression that he was only made a regular for the rest of this season. I forget the original press release, but that was the way I took it. We really don’t know how long his contract is for.
As for Neal, it’s strange that they released the Hook information so readily, but refuse to say specificially which episode Neal is returning in and how many episodes he’ll actually be in the rest of the season. They’re still so hush-hush on anything surrounding him. He’s this enigma.
If, and a big if, he’s going to be in “Fifty Shades of Grey” I doubt he’s going to be the lead. They’ve been trying to get a big name A lister to take over the role. We all know now who Colin is, but he’s not an A lister.
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In Regina’s case, and being an American I’m not the most up on my monarchy succession rules, the kingdom should have gone to Snow in the first place, not Regina. Doesn’t the title go to the next in line? Regina wasn’t royal, she married into it. So the next in line would be Snow. Regina did what her mother told her to do. She raised a guard to protect her and slyly took power that rightfully shouldn’t have been hers.
We still don’t know what else happened with George’s kingdom. What the circumstances were around the siege of his kindgom. Snow had a rightful claim to Regina’s, but we still don’t know much of anything about George’s kingdom.
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@frumpybutsupersmart wrote:
Wow ok it’s not like I needed my heart or anything.
*nods*
He’s also drinking, if I remember correctly in “The Price of Magic”. There are a few episodes that happened in the timeline after Belle left him and before the curse hit where he has the flask. I just mentioned it in another post that after Belle left, he put his curse plans into hyper-speed after hundreds of years of living and had a tendency to drink from the flask. He had nothing else to live for. Belle was gone forever, Bae was missing. He had nothing to lose. Poor Rumple.
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My kids at school love Peter Pan. I mean, they have an unhealthy obsession with this movie. We watch shows at lunch and snack time and we’ve been watching Peter Pan a few times a week…for the past month. I am so sick of it, but everytime I listen to it while I’m doing other things I think of “Oh, I wonder if this will be brought up in Once.” For example, when they’re learning to fly, and fly to the clock and standing on the minute hand, I keep thinking if Bae is Peter then what type of happy thoughts is he thinking to be able to fly. Is he thinking of the good times with his dad? And then I also wonder if they’ll differentiate between pixies and fairies on the show. That’s not counting all the Peter vs. Capt. Hook stuff going on.
I told you. I’ve watched this movie far too much. But since I have the movie practically photographed in my brain, I’m thinking about reading the book.
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@TheGoldenKey wrote:
I know I keep going on about this but if Kitsis and Horowitz have stated that Blue is good and only wishes to to good then I’ve got to believe what they’ve said. They weren’t ambiguous about it. They made it perfectly clear she is good and only does good.
What bugs me about the Blue Fiary, no matter what Eddie and Adam claim, is that she did nothing to stop the Ogre Wars and the kids fighting on the front lines. If she’s the “Original Power” and her name was whispered about on the battlefield, why didn’t she show up to help them? All Bae had to do was say her name and *poof* she floats down to the ground with a solution to his problem. Rumple, on the other hand, although he is evil, did stop the Ogres. We know from Morraine that the soldiers looked at him as a hero. Maybe the Blue Fairy is all good, but there are some inconsistancies about her. And I still take it as her lying to the Charmings about the tree. She withheld information and twisted it. That’s dishonest. But this isn’t the Blue Fairy thread…
As for “The Cricket Game”, I’m of the opinion that Cora is going to be impersonating Archie. I don’t think she’s going to kill him, but I think she could do a lot of damage as Archie. Actually, he seems like the key guy to impersonate if she wants the make the most mischief. Regina we know has talked to him. Gold has confided in him in the past. He’s the town psychiatrist and the one most people probably trust. He’s in the inner circle of the Charmings. That’s just a perfect storm for causing chaos.
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For Rumple being so unbeatable, he sure does have some weaknesses. Three of them to be exact…Bae, Belle and the dagger. If Neal=Bae then I think we could add Henry to the list, but that isn’t until much, much later.
I do think if Belle died a second time Gold would just lose it completely. He didn’t handle it well the first time around. It was after she “died” that he seemed to step up and set the final steps in motion for his plan. It’s amazing to watch the earlier episodes with Rumple and he seemed to be getting more unhinged as the time came closer for the curse to be enacted. I also wonder if we’ll ever get an explanation of his drinking from the flask post-Belle but pre-curse. We really don’t see him drinking at any other point in the time line.
And she’s a key to breaking his curse. She’s a powerful weapon just in that sense. Regina tried to use it to manipulate Rumple into losing his powers so she could become the most powerful. It didn’t work.
I don’t think Hook will try anything romantic with Belle. She wouldn’t fall for it and I don’t think he’d even attempt it after knocking her out and trying to kill her. But the poor girl does have a habit of being confined and captured. It’s beginning to be the running joke of the series…what method can torture Belle with this week.
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Omg, I love the name Grandpastiltskin so much. I’m going to have to steal it for one of my fics, The Lady Belle. I haven’t heard that, even on Tumblr.
I think Neal does have some rights. He had no idea he had a son. I’m not saying he should get custody, but the boy needs to know his father had no idea of his existance and Neal should be able to get to know his son. If Emma had the chance, despite her sordid past, then why shouldn’t we give Neal the same opportunity.
I don’t see Henry’s story or even the show as anti-adoption. I don’t think Eddie and Adam went into it with an agenda in mind. People like to put meaning on things that don’t exist. Twist people’s words around. I think this is just a version of fairytales where adoption is a part of the story. Henry’s not a poster-child for any cause.
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Evidently I took the well scene in a different light. Regina and Rumple looked to me like they were trying to capture Cora before she emerged. I think Emma and Snow show up instead and ruin their plan. It just never occurred to me that Gold and Regina were trying to hurt Emma and Snow on the promo.
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