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Heather and I caught Shatner’s live show last night. We marathoned Disney princess movies last night on ABC Family and laughed over Shatner’s tweets which provided much frivolity. My #1 fan here at Once (She Who Must Not Be Named who reported me to RG for being a bully) was part of the gang up against Shatner at one point. She even blocked Phee for retweeting a Shatner tweet.
Happy Sunday everyone!
@Jo I shall be there tonight, but don’t worry if I’m not there until like exactly 8:00 or something. But I will be there for sure.
You better! I can’t watch this show without you. I will go insane. And weep. And throw a hissy fit.
Things like this happen, RG, when you have a real life. 😆 You miss out on twitter wars and movie marathons. 😛
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JosephineParticipantLol. Shatner and Princess movies = awesome night! 😆
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JosephineParticipantRG and I are too much alike I think sometimes. In the wake of the sinking and destruction of our Rumbelle ship, she’s been indulging herself in Shamy and I’ve been going back to the source material and reading various versions of Beauty and the Beast. Being a teen when the Disney movie was release, it was not my first introduction to the tale. I’ve always loved the older versions where he asks her nightly, “Beauty, will you marry me” and is really more friendly than in the Disney version. But a part of me was always a tiny bit disappointed in the Beast’s transformation to human at the end, and evidently it’s not an uncommon feeling.
I came upon an interesting blog post about it, The Transformation of Beauty It focuses Beauty’s transformation in the story and how she goes from really a sweet-natured girl willing to take on the responsibilities of her family and full of humility to a powerful woman who can face a beast:
And this is where part of the appeal of beastliness lies–in the willing surrender of power from Beast to Beauty. Because if he holds power as a beast, then what does that mean for her, who holds power over the Beast? She doesn’t mind that he’s an animal, because he’s her animal, safely drinking from her hands, following her commands.
She goes on to talk about this power and why when we get to the transformation it’s a bit disappointing:
Which is why the endings of these stories tend to be disappointing. The primal, transcendent power of a Beast becomes the earthly, mundane power of a Prince, operating within (though at the top of) human laws rather than transgressing them entirely. The dynamic between them becomes something more familiar–a husband and wife, rather than a beauty and her beast.
So at the end she’s once again back in the subservient role, now as a wife. It’s an interesting take on the story and I don’t know I ever consciously thought about it in that frame and why I do get a bit disappointed when he transforms. I do think there’s more to it than power, such as will he still be the same being underneath his new façade or a different person. But the balance of power is an interesting take to think about.
And this has nothing to really do with SF, but when does anything in this thread. 😉 I’m just feeling contemplative today. And my other beast returns tonight. Maybe I should post this also in the Rumbelle thread, too.
I do tend to have a thing for beastly aloof men with problems (e.g. Darcy, Rumple, Renard, Lupin). Between this quirk and UberFacts I’m never getting married, but then I think do I really want to. 😉
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JosephineParticipantjosephine and rumplesgirl are in an arranged marriage, but josephine doesn’t want to go through with it.
well. it’s not like it’s not true
#WeSpendTooMuchTimeTogether 🙂 😆
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JosephineParticipantWhy weren’t the mistakes caught in the dailies? In the editing? In a show that relies on world-building and intricate timelines and plots putting that responsiblity on an intern is not acceptable. It runs through various hands and not one person knows their own show they’re working on? These people get paid very well at what they do. I expect more.
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JosephineParticipantI think you guys have hit the nail on the head. Ask anyone in the GA and they’d probably say Neal would be back. Even some hardcore fans were convinced he would be back and now that he has another series they know he’s never coming back. They didn’t care before because the window was always there to return but now it’s closed. They’re all finally realizing that it’s not going to happen. Combine that with the sub-par story lines lately and people are realizing what might or really SHOULD have been.
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JosephineParticipantOh, I would lay money on Jafar being the big bad in 5a. Definitely. So him being behind Will’s appearance in Storybrooke once again is probable. He’s smart and it wouldn’t be hard for him to outwit some schlump into setting him free of his bottle. Or controlling someone remotely through his “master”.
My memory is leaving me, and I might have to pull up some episodes of Wonderland, but why was Will in Storybrooke during the first curse. Why can’t I remember this? Did Regina pick him? Or did he flee back to the EF before the curse? I’m drawing a total blank. Because I do remember the White Rabbit going to Storybrooke to get Will and going to FakeLondon to get Alice in the asylum. But I’m having a brain fart on why he was stuck in Storybrooke to begin with.
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JosephineParticipantWhat if…and I hate to think this of Will, but like you said he is a conman, he’s leading Robin on to the page in the library and cozying up to Belle because the Author and/or Sorcerer has Ana and he’s using Will to do his/her bidding. Kind of like Rumple used Hook. Will is doing all of whatever he’s doing, following orders and in return his love will be returned to him.
I’d hate to think this because if this is the case because then he’s going to end up crushing Belle. (Can’t she get a break???) But I could see Adam and Eddy thinking this is all romantic. Not only do they not know how to write women, they don’t really know romance very well.
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JosephineParticipantSo, I’ve learned two things today:
1. No one seems to know what day it is today. I have seen so many tweets from people who don’t know that today is Thursday. Someone wished everyone a happy Wednesday and then TV Line put out there article about what to watch tonight and had the header listed for Friday. I have been crazy busy every night this week and yet I still know that today is Thursday, LOL
2. Jo and I will never get to date any guys in the world because UberFacts apparently has every random factoid in the world against us (the latest was that most men won’t date short women). I swear they’re stalking us just to bring us down emotionally this week. All we need now is one UberFact telling us that everyone you meet online is an ax murderer and we’re set for life, LOL
Carry on….
I would say the solution is to unsubscribe to UberFacts, but then we wouldn’t get such enlightening information about various things such as Kobo the Gorilla’s peccadilloes over human mammary glands. They tear us down, but then they feed us useless info.
Other news, HOT CAPTAIN is back tomorrow. See, Slurpeez, I like someone who isn’t obscenely older than me. 😛
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JosephineParticipantYou are diabolical, Ranisha. Really
But I could honestly see Bobby being on a gritty series like GoS. He tends to not pick fluffy roles but opting to things like playing drug dealers and cannibals But I think he’ll take time away from TV after this.
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