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The biggest problem is that it has no build up. No foreshadowing (besides the two cups he got at the beginning of the episode) in the previous episode, no hints, nothing. Like Phee said, last week she’s still visibly shaken and this week she’s kissing someone else?
They write Belle so one-dimensional. She never has a purpose outside of a man. Her father, Rumple and now Will. Why can’t she have a friend? Why don’t we see her struggle with everything that’s happened to her? This show is really not good at character development.
A part of me wishes they’d have just killed her off at the end of Skin Deep.
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JosephineParticipantHaha, Slurpeez, I like your synonym “physical attraction” from what I originally said. Very clever. 😆
Phee, my first volunteer for a little bloodshed over Neal’s grave was Hook. 😉
If SeasonOneEmma ever met SeasonFourEmma, she’d kick her into kingdom come. Yes, she was jaded and had her “walls up” but she also didn’t suffer fools. Like has been said, she’s knowingly ignoring parts of his past. Yes, you’re past is your past, but it also shapes who you are today. The biggest element of a successful relationship is trust and if you don’t even want to know what your partner did in the past, even in generalities, you have very big problems. Look at Rumbelle. Why is CS getting a pass? And the saddest part of all, is I think they’re going to continue get a pass to the end of the series.
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JosephineParticipantI do think Rumple is going to die at the end of this season. With Disney releasing the Diamond Edition in October, 5A will be Aladdin.  If they can get Naveen back as the big bad, then they might be willing to let Bobby go early, depending on what his contract really is.  5B will be the conclusion of the show.  Whether it’s a full 11 episodes for both 5A & 5B I don’t know.
I read an interesting post on tumblr last night. Â I’m going to link it because it’s too long to post it here: http://forzaouat.tumblr.com/post/113142095401/okay-here-we-go
Although she thinks Rumple’s gone after season 5 instead of 4, she has a lot of great points. Despite my rage over Will/Ana and whatever happened to them, they could still do the huge Beauty and the Beast ending AND kill him off AND have Belle move on. Â Imagine him sacrificing himself at the end, Belle proclaims her love, cries over his prone figure, they kiss and TLK lifts the Dark One curse. Â However, he still dies. Â We get our B&TB kiss and ending and Belle can move on with Will. Â And Rumple is reunited in the beyond with his son. Â Happy ending for everyone, but the fans.
I think a lot of Bobby fans are convinced he’s exhausted by this show. Rumple no longer has his sparkle. There is no growth in his character.  I always said that it would have been more interesting to see his curse broken earlier and him living with the effects of mortality, including having a much younger wife and probably having children again.  Sadly, we’ll never see that.  And Bobby has other irons in the fire.  He directed and stared in a movie that is being released this year with Emma Thompson.  I can see him not wanting to be tied to tv anymore with his kids being small and getting into directing.
To me the show ended at 3×10 with the Floof Family hug.  I will maintain that.  I’m good at denial. To this day Little Women ended with Jo accepting Laurie’s proposal. 😛  So I can end the series with Rumple/Neal/Belle hugging.
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JosephineParticipantI have a feeling that Rumple will be killed, dead, sacrificed at the end of this season so I’m of the opinion that Rumbelle is probably over with. This angst is to get the final ending where they admit their love, his curse is finally broken, and then he dies.
I am upset about Ana/Will. I just rewatched Wonderland finale this week and it was beautiful. That speech! That is not a man who would give up on his lover.
Will: Anna, I know what you feel for Jafar seems real to you.
Ana: It is real!
Will: it’s a trick. *sighs* A one-sided mind game. You had real love once, and you know it’s not that simple.
Ana: It can be.
Will: No, it’s messy. It means arguing and making up and laughing and…and crying and struggling. And sometimes, it doesn’t seem worth it. But it is. And at the end, when you’re in love, no matter what happens, you forgive each other. I forgive you, Ana, for what you did to me. Because I love you. And if there’s any part of you that has a shred of love for me, then please help us.
Ana: Really lovely words. But that’s all they are. I know what I feel.
Will: What you feel is a curse! Jafar did this to you.
Ana: If what I feel isn’t love…then what is?
Will: This.
[They kiss and Ana’s curse is lifted]
There is no build up, no development with this relationship for me to  care about it.  I’m glad Belle is spreading her wings a bit, but I would like it more if they showed it on the screen instead of just skipping all the initial stuff.
And I ache for what they’ve ruined with the finale of Wonderland. Â That was a perfect ending for them. Â They were happy and they’ve destroyed it just to provide angst for another couple.
Really, nothing of this makes me excited or even motivated to watch.
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JosephineParticipantIs it really March? *looks at calendar* We broke records for lows last night. Got down to -2F in the city and -4F on my phone when I woke. Add to the 8 inches of snow on the ground and currently in the teens and it seems like warmer weather is never coming. I know the weathermen say it’s coming, but I just don’t believe them.
Hehehe, Phee. It won’t last. Emma will get googly eyes and say “Oh, Killian, it doesn’t matter. The past is over with. There is only the future.” (Totally said that in my head in a Scarlett o’Hara voice.)
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JosephineParticipantMy cardigan is giving me difficulty.
I’m to the decreases in the neckline and they’re not symmetrical, which I plotted it out and finally understand the reasoning. However, I also have to decrease in pattern, and remembering which row is a decrease row and which row is a berry stitch row (involving many increases and decreases) is confusing. Add to the confusion it’s different on each side. So….I’m ignoring the pattern and simplifying it in my head. Berry stitch rows will also be decrease rows. That way it’s decreased symmetrically and I won’t have to keep detailed notes for each row.
Hopefully this simplification will let me finally get some work done on this thing. I want it done.
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JosephineParticipantAfter most of my snow melting yesterday, I woke up to 6 inches of snow and it’s still coming down. It rained all day before it turned to snow so I have no idea how much ice is beneath that snow. Nothing is open today, the roads are horrible and who knows how much more we’re getting. Mother Nature hates us.
I had a Sheldon dream last night, RG! First I forgot to record it so we could watch together and watched it live instead but then a second episode came on and I recorded that one. Then it morphed into something about cloned people Sheldon was there with his expert opinions. Evidently, you could get rid of the clones by playing Bubble witch. Teaches me to talk about TBBT before bed and then play Bubble Witch before I go to sleep.
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JosephineParticipantIt generally avoids human contact, is more likely to allow a witch to approach it
Lily tried to run away and was friendly with Emma, who has magical powers and some might call a witch.
And she has dark hair, much like Mal’s Unicorn. 😉
Lilycorn MUST happen! It’s the only enjoyment I’ve had this season so far.
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JosephineParticipantCount me on the Lily=Unicorn bandwagon. Let me list my evidence:
1) A definition of lily is “white or pure thing: somebody or something that is particularly white or pure.
2) JK Rowling (my queen in all things) has from Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them the following passage:
The Unicorn is a beautiful beast found throughout the forests of northern Europe. It is a pure white, horned horse when fully grown, though the foals are initially golden, and turn silver before achieving maturity. The unicorns horn, blood and hair all have highly magical properties. It generally avoids human contact, is more likely to allow a witch to approach it than a wizard, and is so fleet of foot that it is very difficult to capture.
ALLLL in for Unicorn Lily!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JosephineParticipantLooks fantastic, RG!
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