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Keb
ParticipantYep, but it is perfect and the moment played out very well, too. *fangirls*
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Keb
ParticipantOMG I LOVE this scene for so many reasons. Henry gets to be part of magic!!! The Author wants to communicate with him! The keyhole shaped light pointing to the key!!!
I love it!
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Keb
ParticipantWell, her mom crushed her dad’s heart already, so why not?
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Keb
ParticipantI do love Little Emma in her princess dress. So pretty.
I wonder if it’s meant to reflect what they were talking about with the future being hard to predict, puzzle pieces.
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Keb
ParticipantI think Emma will be tempted to go evil, but Henry (and probably Killian) will bring her back from the brink. (It SHOULD be Henry, he’s the Truest Believer, but…Killian gets to do ALL the things anymore.)
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Keb
ParticipantI also believe losing RC would end the show. I just can’t see it happening. Hook & Regina are definitely drawing audiences on their own, but without Rumple to balance their characters out…there’s no show.
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Keb
ParticipantI have always thought that the Dark One curse took away most of Rumple’s humanity; Blue’s statement to Baelfire about his being the only thing that kept Rumple human confirms that to me. Part of it is simple though: Power corrupts. We’ve seen that repeatedly throughout the show–that’s one of the prices of magic.
We’ve watched it corrupt all the villains, who generally go (at least chronologically) from lovable people to hardcore villains as a result of gaining some power that they believe will allow them to overcome whatever is holding them back from happiness.
But we’ve also seen it with our heroes. Give Snow the power to forget her True Love, she runs off to assassinate Regina. Give Snow the power to kill Cora…she does it. (There’s a bit of self-defense in both cases, but still.) Give Jiminy the power to harm his parents, he tries it–that actually was VERY dark (Geppetto’s parents are STILL in Gold’s shop as creepy puppet people). Give Henry the powers of the Truest Believer in Neverland, he’ll cut lost boys and give his own heart to Pan. Give Neal the power to reverse death…he’ll (OOCly I still believe) do it… Emma went a little dark when she got desperate to beat Regina in S1; Gold offered her the power to beat Sidney in the election, and for a little while, she went with it. And given We Are Both, we know that there’s a Lacey side to Belle that LOVES the dark one’s power as much as the man underneath, and even she couldn’t resist the temptation to use the dagger when she got desperate enough.
Power by itself is very attractive and that’s why anyone would choose to be the Dark One in the first place. (Reminder, you have to be willing to commit murder at least once just to BECOME to DO.) The curse takes away whatever humanity the power trip leaves intact. Because of Bae, though, I think Rumple was able to find a balance for a time–stick to deals, and enforce them on himself as well as those around him. It let him get what he wanted in, mostly, a way he could justify to that shred of humanity in him that was left.
After Zelena, after Neal’s death, and after rediscovering the hat (the greatest temptation for someone willing to undergo the DO curse to get the DO power–the DO power without the curse)…there wasn’t anything but Belle to hold him back, and he believed if he could just manage it without her knowing, she’d still be there for him.
I don’t think he’s suicidal right now, but I do believe we’ll see him shift from full-on villain to something more like the Rumple we know by the end of this arc. And, in the process, if he realizes there’s truly nothing left for him…then he might become same.
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Keb
ParticipantYeah, I think Henry will stop her. But I also believe this is all leading up to a moment when Rumple will have to choose to put Henry and Belle’s happiness ahead of his own somehow.
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Keb
ParticipantFair enough. That was just the first thought that hit me–didn’t he make a deal with that thing?
…I obsess way too much over these things.
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Keb
ParticipantIf this flashback is after the wedding and after the encounter with the QoD in 413……
Why is Charming wearing that cloak? Isn’t that the same one he traded to Rumple so he could stop Snow from killing Regina, long before they were married?
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