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“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@PriceofMagic wrote:
They all seem to be showing up for me at the moment. A few moments ago some of the Jiminy and his parents were missing but now they’re back. I think the Photobucket thing is playing up again like it did in the other caption thread a while ago.
NOOOOOOO! 🙁 🙁 I can handle the show being on hiatus–but give me the pictures for the caption threads! 😆
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
The character alignment 😀
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Yes, I’d like to see another mash-up in which the Blue Fairy is Tinker Bell herself, or she at least is a friend of Tinker Bell. I still think back to the time in “The Return” in which the BF gave the magic bean to Baelfire, and she had this secretly gleeful look in her eye. I think that was a very indicative expression that Keegan Conner Tracey put in there as a hint about the BF’s intentions.
Sorry this was way back in the thread, and I missed replying before now, but I would love it if BF were Tinkerbell, just so they could justify giving her a NEW OUTFIT. That hideous shell monstrosity has to go.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
[I’d be happy with the above as an ending…how do we end this thing? If you like your story-go-round with more crazy, we can keep going. Of course if we do end there, it calls to mind that trope …and a few characters come to my mind….
“It was all a dream,” Emma said in relief. Then she gasped as she realized she was not alone in the room.
“That happened to me too,” said a kindly looking older man. “Hi, I’m Bob.”
“Me too,” said a woman. “I’m Pam. You know, funny your name is Bob, because I married a guy named Bobby—“
“I dreamed too,” said a little boy holding a snow-globe inside of which was a tiny little hospital.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Too bad we don’t have Jon Bon Jovi playing Robin Hood. Couldn’t help but hear the song “Wanted, Dead or Alive” play through my head when looking at the poster. 😆
😆 He does act, so not for Robin Hood, but you never know for a future character….
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@Surayya wrote:
Please no ship comments- that’s not what this thread is about!
Perhaps if you framed things in your original post differently you would get comments more on track to the discussion you want. Even now with your edits, you make a lot of statements about your impressions and theories of the possible romantic relationships between various characters.
Now part of this is because you were trying to elaborate on why Emma is unhappy now, so you could explain what it would take to make her happy. You centered that part on her relationship with Neal. You even set up a comparison more or less with the hurt Neal caused Emma to that of the enmity between Snow and Regina. I think these two relationships are not even in the same ballpark. Emma does not hate Neal. You may feel she should (and I disagree with a lot of your conclusions about how deeply he hurt her…but this would get too long to go into all that), but that’s not the direction the writers have gone down. Whether or not they have romantic feelings for each other, I don’t think Emma is defining her happiness in terms of Neal’s unhappiness. Regina, on the other, has not quite abandoned thinking that if Snow is unhappy, that she would be happy. So in this sense, it would not be enough for Regina to love Neal for her to get along with Snow. I don’t know yet how angry Regina is with Rumpel for his role in everything to make a similar conclusion. I think Regina is in the process of changing how she feels about Rumpel.
In any case, if what you are asking is: Can Regina, Rumple, Snow & Charming, Emma and Henry ever coexist peacefully enough for a “happily ever after”?, then I would answer, yes they can. The Charmings, Henry and Emma are being written as capable of extreme amounts of forgiveness. We’ve seen Emma say something like she got a second chance, so she is willing to give others one too. Henry believes there must be some other way than killing Regina to resolve things. Snow pardoned Regina and said there was once good in her. Of course right now, she is in a darker place, but I think she will get back to be willing to forgive. Charming risked his life to try to save Anton after Anton had attacked him in an angry rampage. They are the “heroes” so that means they WANT to (sometimes) take the risk that the bad guy can be saved. The writers have said the show is all about hope.
As for the “Villains” of Regina and Rumpel, they both may do things that seem like completely mentally unstable sociopaths, but they do both want to find love for and with other people. So I think the writers could believably take them on a journey of learning how to be better.
That said, I don’t think a realistic ending is one in which everyone (who is an adult) is paired off romantically. There are people in the real world who are not in romantic relationships, but who are not lonely and unhappy, because they do have love. Even in stories that can work as a “happy ending”, as it did in Pinnochio, Up or more recently, Brave. I like romantic subplots, so I’m not opposed to having characters paired up at the end, but of course, to discuss the possibilities of what is more “real world” there might derail the thread again.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
“OH what a feeling, I’m dancing on the ceiling,” sang Jefferson.
“No, not 80’s music,” groaned Neal as he started to sink back down to the ground.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
It’s season 2 people, there’s a long way to go to get to endgame, anything can happen (ok ok, the main couples that are fairy tale / disney canon are pretty much locks, I don’t see them messing with those) but for new people it’s all up in the air and that’s the beauty of it.
I agree with that completely. Of course, I don’t think “happiness” at endgame has to be defined by romance. Season 1 had Emma kissing Henry with true love and breaking not just his sleeping curse, but the entire curse on the town’s memories. I think that was significant.
I think it would cheapen Regina’s redemption if the only reason she felt secure in Henry’s place in her life, or even the primary reason, is that she marries his father. Stepmothers in fairytales after all, are a dangerous category! If she is redeemed, it should be through her actions and choices, and Henry should recognize her as his mother on his own. But depending on how evil they make Tamara, I suppose Regina would be a step up for Neal (because at least she wouldn’t have cheated on him….)
The Hook situation is a little different since there is no parental love issue (that we know about…..there is that crack theory, that Milah and Hook were lovers before she ran away with him, and HE is actually Bae’s father…which, if the writers went there, could also create that family tie sort of bond. But I don’t like that theory or think it is supported by what we’ve seen). Anyway, if Hook’s happy ending is a new love, I think the writers will have just as much work to put him with Emma as they would to repair her relationship with Neal. That speaks to the potential of both relationships, really, because we are so early on in the show, and the writers need something to write about before the happily ever after.
I think Emma is capable of forgiving Neal for betraying her and letting her go to jail. Not right now, but her biggest objection was that he listened to Pinochio. It sounds funny because WE know the legend of Pinnochhio as a liar. Yet if she thought Pinnochio was knowledgeable, powerful & sincere, would she have been as upset about Neal listening to him? If the writers give us scenes to fill in the gap between “how could you possibly trust THAT guy and leave me” versus “Ok, I’m still upset, but I see why you felt you had to do it ” to maybe even seeing it as a sacrifice not just for the greater good, but for her own good done out of love. It all depends on what other scenes the writers have in mind.
The same applies with Hook. Emma thinks of him at best as a low potential threat right now (her line that she was not sure how much more damage he could cause). We need to see how he thinks about her given she just beaned him with a can and ruined his revenge. If he doesn’t hold that against her, that is a start of a change in his nature. Then we need to go from there, to seeing scenes of them falling for each other.
So there’s a long way to go to happily ever after, and the writers seem to have purposefully put both Neal and Hook into Emma’s path. Regardless of which they pair (if any) with Emma, the other could be put with Regina, or even with a new character, because there’s really so much room for the writers to play around. Henry seems like he would probably be able to roll with the flow so long as everyone isn’t trying to kill each other, even if they aren’t one big happy family. (Judging from his friendly reaction to Tamara).
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@HappyEndings wrote:
So Ariel was already casted in Season 1, and that is why no casting call correct ❓
Question: If we don’t have Bae as Peter Pan, then why do we need a Wendy ❓
Question: The three boys who are casted are we still assuming they are the Lost Boys or what ❓
Maybe she was cast back then, but I think they don’t have to do a casting call if they have someone in mind for a part (like Rose McGowan for Young Cora). Maybe she’s someone they tried out for some other role and liked, and “saved” her to be cast for this part. That kind of thing happens too.
Regardless of whether Bae is Peter Pan, the character could come in later next season. Plus, it’s the ONCE way to want to explore characters in different contexts than their original tales. So even without Peter, they may have something in mind for Wendy that defines her place in the story.
For example, what if Wendy rather than Peter is the major antagonist in Neverland? So Hook would be the protagonist, who takes Bae under his wing as a pirate, and either Bae is Peter or there is another Peter, but it is Wendy who is up to no good (for the residents of Neverland…I’m not picturing her as full out evil, but she could want something that other Neverland people don’t, like having time start again there).
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
