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@ihr wrote:
Emma gave birth to Henry when she was 18, so she got pregnant before that. It’s a simple math.
Are you sure about Eddy, Adam, Jane Espenson saying that?Well, pregnancies take 9-10 months. Therefore Emma could conceivably have met Neal just after turning 18, and given birth to Henry soon before turning 19.
[adrotate group="5"]Although Nealfire knows about Emma having his son, he doesn’t know that she gave him up for adoption yet. I wonder if we are going to see that on screen? Also, if someone doesn’t punch August in the face for what he did to Emma, I will be very annoyed!
@medchen wrote:
I believe Regina is a responsible parent when it comes to her son. She loves him and took care of him for 11 years. I understand why Emma and the Charmings are afraid for him to go live with her permanently, but I don’t think it is justified to keep them from eatchother completely, with no contact at all- But that said, I don’t think that is what they are perposely and knowingly doing right now. It’s just that curcomstances has made it that way right now.
Schmacky-
No, they don’t have a responsibility to help Regina change. The victims do not have a responsibility to help reform their attackers. No.
People always have a responsibility for their own actions. And Emma, Snow and Charmings (+more) actions towards Regina will have an effect on her ‘redemption’. So if they WANT her to change for the better (and the want is important here) I say, that they are going about it the wrong way… But if they don’t want her to change , if they just don’t care. Then I say, they should carry on the way they’re going now.
Except that we have seen Regina and Henry have contact. They’ve been at parties and gatherings together, David even had Regina look after him. The only time she hasn’t actively been permitted contact was when there was strong evidence she had killed Archie.
Regina might have taken care of Henry for 10 years, but that was only when she was granted complete control over him and his environment, with very few outside influences. Now that he’s getting older, he’s rebelling against her, and the environment around him has fundamentally changed. Regina has shown herself to be incapable of dealing with these pressures (e.g. trying to put Emma under the sleeping curse, working with Cora again to try and get him all to herself). She managed to kill Henry because of it, she is no longer a safe person for him.
@medchen wrote:
Elle-
Her whole reasoning for changing had been for Henry. Not Snow White or Emma. She should want to change because it is the right thing to do.
She should want to and she should BELIEVE that she can change. That’s my point, belief is everything. And right now everyone, including Regina, believes she can’t be anybody but the stereotype Evil Queen she was in fairytaleland, but as Emma on one occasion states “She is not the evil Queen here, she is Regina”
Henry is her motivation for change right now and not remorse, and he is the one thing they are keeping away from her. Don’t get me wrong I understand them to a surtain extend, he is a kid and they are afraid for him. But they don’t see that, that is exactly what is keeping Regina their enemy and keeping her in the role as evil.
Henry in glimpses did show Regina a better way and she did follow him but only breafly and not long enough for remorse of her wrong actions to start to sink in.
Look at it this way- If a person is lost in the woods at night and can’t find the right path home to the town- they see a light- they follow it- when they get closer to the town, the light brightens up the path and they can start following the path again instead of the light.
Henry is Reginas light, and it’s okay for him to be her motivation to change, remorse will come later. But not if Emma and the Charmings keep Henry and Regina apart.It isn’t Henry’s responsibility to keep his mother on the straight and narrow. Plus, they weren’t really keeping Henry away from Regina, they have had some contact- Emma took him to NYC to take him from Cora, who is a great danger to him.
Also, since Regina is obviously planning on getting Henry back with her machinations with Cora, being away from Regina is the best thing for Henry.
@Arkham258 wrote:
Least Favorite
I was a bit irritated by Snow telling Regina that what Emma does with Henry is none of her business. Regina was his legal guardian for most of his young life. I’m continually amazed by how coldly Regina gets treated by people on this show. It would be hard to blame her if she went bad again, which this episode makes it seem like she possibly has. That was such a rude, and insensitive thing for Snow to say. It almost struck me as out of character.
I’m sorry, but I’m always astonished when people say things like this. I could write out a massive list of all the evil things Regina has done, but everyone knows it already.
Regina is an abuser (to put it mildly). In order to gain redemption, she needs to take responsibility for what she has done, and make lasting change. She needs to beg forgiveness from those she has wronged. She needs to earn their respect and their trust. That is a process that takes years. She doesn’t get to “change” for 2 weeks and then have everyone be her besties. She needs to make the effort, no one else does. If Regina goes bad (looks like she has), the only person responsible is her. Frankly, I think everyone has been much kinder to her than she deserves.
My favourite scenes were the ones at the airport, I thought they were well done and that Robert Carlyle was excellent. Least favourite part… probably Anton’s backstory. I think he’s sweet, but as previous posters have said, we’d already kind of guessed the story.
@EvilQueen wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRWpMpFXFH8&feature=player_embedded
OMG, the promo. Lana Parrilla hotness!!!!
0:15 scene – it looks SO GOOD!
And what’s that with Emma not letting Henry see Regina or what???? Please don’t do that…My personal guess is that Gold has told Emma that she needs to go and find Bae as her favour. She wants to take Henry with her, firstly because they’ve only just been reunited, and secondly because they must be aware that Cora is going to try and get to Storybrooke. Cora knows about Henry, and it wouldn’t really be safe for him to be there when she arrives.
Two more up.
http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/10/once-upon-time-episode-205-doctor-sneak_24.html
It seems that they’re starting to explore Emma’s superpower again.
I don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but apparently, on Lost, one of the main character’s passports had an alias of “Dean Moriarty”, which was the name of the a book character based upon Neal Cassady. So Neal Cassady is definitely already within the writers’ minds.
