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Maybe the writers were watching too many episodes of Sliders when they decided to being the Wish Realm into reality (and maybe I’m the only one who remembers Sliders and this will only make sense to me, LOL).
[adrotate group="5"]StahlopParticipantI’d also like a lot more explanation, but I’m happy in taking solace that at least this jump isn’t between our world and Wish Realm or anything, but between two magical realms.
The thing that doesn’t make sense to me, is I thought the Wish Realm did not exist until Emma wished it into existence? Wasn’t that stated somewhere? If that is true the wish realm should not be in existence at this time, right? I don’t know it is all way to convoluted for me now and I totally forgot that Alice and Emma where basically the same age in wish realm timeline but does that only count as Nook as he can travel back and forth to the wish realm? Anyway I think it was an incredibly bad idea to bring the wish realm back at all, it complicates a lot of story lines at least it should.
I think Regina thought it didn’t exist until it was wished it into existence. Or if it didn’t exist until then, then magic somehow made up for all that would have happened up to that point. Because only one Emma seemed to exist when she was wished there. Or maybe they merged into one because of the wish, still not sure about that. Either way, because it is in existence now, the people there have to have a past and that past would have to include things that could have happened had the curse not happened (I just used happened way too many times there). I don’t know if the past was altered once the Wish Realm was wished into existence or memories were altered, but they are definitely real to everyone involved.
StahlopParticipantStill pretty sure EF2 and Wish Realm are 2 separate worlds that Hook is travelling back and forth from.
Okay, yes. The timeline makes a little more sense now but now I’m bothered by the whole world hopping thing. But I guess it’s just much easier than it used to be.
I was really hoping we’d get more on Jack/Nick’s backstory, and that he just happened to get a whole cache of beans after his experience with the giant. Although, I guess that doesn’t explain Nook’s ability to realm jump whenever he’d like.
StahlopParticipant*tilts head* I thought this would be an Alice centric episode?
Me too. Or a younger Rapunzel episode. But the promo didn’t show anything from the past, so it still could be about either of them.
StahlopParticipantI’m guessing Gothel is the killer now. I just don’t know what her motive is. Maybe killing off the witches gives her more power?
StahlopParticipantI quite liked this episode as well, but I’m also a big Hook fan. I miss seeing Colin O’Donahue in his guyliner on a regular basis, LOL.
Liked:
Alice/Tilly. She’s just amazing. Is she off her meds? She seems like she’s off them, but she just can’t see the whole picture. I like that they are making her look like the killer, although we all know she’s not. My money is on Gothel as the killer. Just not sure of the motive.
I liked young Alice as well. And how Nook dresses her like a doll. I love that he made her so girly and treated her like a precious little girl.
I also loved that they aged Nook. It’s been 10 years since the curse didn’t happen. Alice is actually only a few months (maybe even weeks) older than Emma. Although Smee didn’t seem to have aged. Maybe they were still going to Neverland.
Mixed:
I get that we needed the confrontation with Tilly in the hospital room, but where was everyone after Rogers hit the Code Blue button? And was Hilda not hooked up to anything? Shouldn’t a nurse have noticed that she had no vital signs on their monitor?
Ivy and Henry. So much more chemistry than Jacinda. I really wish that wasn’t established.
I found it weird that Regina confirmed to Lucy that she was right about everything when she’s not technically awake. Why hasn’t Regina woken Lucy up all the way yet? When Ivy woke up Regina she said you just had to be on the verge of believing for the potion to work. Lucy definitely believes.
Disliked:
Where was Zelena/Kelly tonight?
Regina’s walk of shame. Really?
Is there a reason the male florist couldn’t be a witch?
What happened to Maui’s fish hook?
So, Gothel is keeping tabs on Nook and Alice? She just knew that Nook would get into a dual with Ahab and, what, managed to dip the bullets in the mushroom juice? When? And why does she care that Nook let his pride get in the way of caring for Alice for a brief moment? She was going to leave a newborn to basically die so she could escape.
Timeline:
Alice is 10, which also makes Emma around 10 at this point. Alice was conceived the night Regina was defeated and couldn’t cast the curse. So only 10 years have passed since the curse didn’t happen. We haven’t reached the point yet where Regina came to the Wish Realm. That’s not for another 18 years or so. Rumple didn’t get released until Regina came.
Also, I think Nook left the tower periodically. He had to feed and clothe Alice. Plus he got her sand. Not sure how he had money unless he was just living off of past treasure.
StahlopParticipantMāui is a real Polynesian god, and the fish Hook is part of that mythology. Maybe they’re just using the name but going the real mythological route with it?
StahlopParticipantI thought he was a frog in a cage somewhere, but maybe not.
That would make sense too. Maybe he keeps him as a frog until he needs him to do his bidding.
StahlopParticipantI don’t see any chemistry and I don’t see where this past relationship fits into Regina’s Evil Queen past. And I don’t like a relationship thrust on us that we now have to assume happened like Ella and Henry.
StahlopParticipantI assumed Fascilier took him to the Nether World or wherever he lives when not on this plane.
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