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I don’t understand how copyright laws work, so can someone explain why Peter Pan can’t be used? Is the copyright with Disney or J.M. Barrie’s family/estate?
[adrotate group="5"]Rumple has a knack for knowing what people want before they ask him. He could have foreseen someone (the EQ?) wanting a dark curse. Created it to his benefit and by having the EQ enact it he forgoes the consequences of when it is broken. He returns to human form in FTL and destroys the EQ at the same time.
I think Maleficient knew about the “void” because she read/studied the curse even though she didn’t enact it. I think Maleficient understood the curse better because her judgement wasn’t clouded by vengeance. She has a more objective outlook than the EQ.
Though Harry Potter does fit the “story book characters” criteria. But I think hjbau is right, getting the rights might be difficult. How about Merlin or Wart from “The Sword in the Stone”? The original wizard or most famous (until Harry Potter).
The Wicked Witch of the West Definitely! She’d give the EQ a run for her money 🙂
Dorothy
The Pied Piper is a fantastic idea!
Lion King characters (Timon & Pumba)
Aladdin, Jasmine, Jafar – anyone really. Love that movie
Aurora, Prince Philip & the 3 fairies/godmothers
Hercules
When talking of Disney movies how about The Great Mouse Detective or Jungle Book?
And as a personal favorite, how it would fit IDK, but Ichabod Crane. Maybe a Halloween special?Between the episode synopsis and the picture above, it sure looks like August can be Bae. Lissy you could be right. That was my first guess, that the stranger was Rumpel’s son, second guess is Peter Pan.
I still don’t see how Pinocchio escaped the curse unless he became part of the wardrobe. The wardrobe only took one, Emma, so if Pinocchio went through with her, he couldn’t have been human. He would have had to have reverted to wood. Its the only logic I can think of (granted these are Lost writers). How is Gepetto able to save Pinocchio from the curse otherwise? Does he have some kind of magic? Made a deal with Rumple? The EQ? As for Gepetto not having any children, that would be the loss of his happy ending. All Gepetto ever wanted was a child, in the original story, and when Pinocchio becomes a real boy that is the happy ending.
If Pinocchio is an inanimate object (such as that cuckoo clock) we could well have seen him in Mr. Gold’s pawn shop. As an orphan child, not necessarily, as they did with Hansel and Gretel. I like the idea of a wooden inanimate object. What a twist! A cricket from FTL turns back into a man, a boy turns back into wood.
August as Bae would mean that Rumple saved him somehow. A lot of explaining, yes but I still prefer it to him being Pinocchio. Especially after seeing the promo :). I know, wishful thinking, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed that he’s not Pinocchio. I like the idea of Peter Pan too. A boy who never wants to grow up who likes hearing stories in FTL growing up to write/tell stories in our world. This curse gives you what you don’t want/an unhappy ending.
I believe everything Rumple has done has been calculated including his capture (as mentioned above).He created the curse, knows how it works, why it works, and how to break it. I also believe he knows what happens to the person who enacted it when the curse does break. That’s why I think he gave the curse to the EQ to enact: 1. first what it entails to enact it (killing what you love most) and Rumple couldn’t do that. He would never sacrifice Bael (or Belle). and 2. what happens as the curse breaks. I agree that he wants personal release and redemption. Can’t wait to see how this all plays out!
@belleoftheball wrote:
@hjbau wrote:
I think that Rumpel wanted the bottle of love because it is part of the ingredients for the Dark Curse. He seemed to have a shelf full of things and that was the last one. That may be why Emma is the savior to break the curse because the bottle of love came from her parents.
this is my favorite theory so far – it makes perfect sense as to why Emma must be the savior of the curse, and it couldn’t have been anyone else’s child.
I like this theory too! What is the most wonderful thing true love can produce? A child :). And if true love breaks any curse (incl the dark curse), Emma born out of the “truest” love fits the bill. Maybe Emma has to find or reunite with her true love to help break the curse.
I really hope that August isn’t Pinocchio. How would the writers explain Pinocchio’s aging when none of the children from FTL aged? We see Pinocchio in the pilot, which is also right before the curse hits, as a little boy, at the council meeting and helping Gepetto build the wardrobe. Which indicates that Pinocchio was there in Snow’s castle when the curse hit. The only way I can see that Pinocchio escapes the curse, w/o Rumple’s help, is to have been turned back into wood and been made into a part of the wardrobe. Farfetched? That would mean, in my understanding of the curse, that Pinocchio remains wooden/part of the wardrobe in Storybrooke. The only other exlplanation I can think of is a deal with the EQ (as Rumple made) Gepetto makes re Pinocchio. I agree that he is just a kid in Storybrooke that we will meet later. One of Henry’s classmates perhaps?
As for August as Bael, I like that idea better. I just like Bael better than Pinocchio. Rumple created the curse initially and could have done something to save his son beforehand. Maybe time moves a lot slower in FTL. The opening monologue states that the EQ banished a bunch of story book characters to our world (not just fairy tale characters) so August could be just about anybody really but I really hope he’s not Pinocchio. But if he is… at least he’s a lot more interesting than the Disney movie version :). I like the Peter Pan theory. Both Peter Pan and August like adventures and both like stories. We’ll definitely find out soon!
