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hjbau : maybe that’s part of the curse – making you do things in storybrooke the opposite you’d do in fairy tale land. Red Riding Hood hated the wolf in FTL, but kinda likes him in storybrooke.
David and MM are acting not like themselves from FTL. In fact, they’re acting kinda the opposite.
[adrotate group="5"]I don’t think Dr. Whale is the big bad wolf. I don’t have a name, nor do I have screenshots. But in Episode 4 (the one about Cinderella) there is a scene where Emma is questioning Ruby about the whereabouts of Ashley. There was a tow truck operator outside the dinner who dropped Ruby’s car hard on the street. THAT GUY is the wolf; they showed him only briefly.
HOWEVER, that guy has never had a speaking part in the show. So it’s might very well end up Dr. Whale. He and the tow truck guy are the two most likely.
Yep! IMDB also has a short description of the episode which states clearly “reveals the back story of Red Riding Hood.”
I heard that fairy tale long ago, and can’t remember much of it. It could be that Regina is the Miller’s daughter. But when did she gain all that magical power? I mean, she’s quite powerful. I don’t recall the Miller’s daughter being able to cast spells and such.
And she had a prior relationship with Maleficent. So, keep that in mind.
In That Still Small Voice when Jimminy gave the list of names to Rumps, Rumps was playing with his Spinning Wheel (that thing that spins straw into gold thread) and said something to the effect of “This is nice, thank you very much” with a big smile on his face. I got the impression that Jimminy was responsible for stealing the spinning wheel and gave it to Rumps. If that’s true, Jimminy stole it from Regina a LONG time ago.
The citizens of Storybrooke and their lack of notice of the passage of time requires by far a large suspension of disbelief. This is a fantasy TV show and therefore requires suspension of disbelief. Especially when you think of Henry, how he was the only kid to grow up (from a baby to the 10 year old we see today) and no one else around him ages. Henry notices it but everyone else is under the curse so they don’t notice anything. The don’t even notice Henry and his amazing aging properties!
I’m curious about the geographic size of the curse. We’ve seen several kingdomes in fairy tale land; did they all come over with the curse? How big of an area of effect was the curse?
I don’t really beleive in “good” and “evil” as labels. I think there are many degrees of selfish and self-less. The evil queen and Rumps are clearly quite selfish. I would say the evil queen is far worse, as she would never “help” anyone with anything. Whereas Rumps is always willing to help when called upon, for a price of course. I mean, he was nice to Ella – actually granted her wishes and everything, for a price. He even offers people a choice to accept his deals of not.
However, I think Regina will ultimately be the one with the redemption story. Last night (in episode Skin Deep) they stressed that true love’s kiss can dispell any curse. There might be someone who genuinely melts Regina’s heart and she falls in love. Sheriff Grahm doesn’t count, because he was nothing more than a toy to her. I don’t think it’ll be The Stranger, either.
@Riddleraven wrote:
But now I’m not sure. I think the once befores are just flashbacks for us and the book doesnt contain everything that we see.
Good point. I think you’re correct. Sometimes we see the camera do a kind of zoom-in towards an illustration in the book. When we (the viewer) see one of those, we can assume it’s a story from the book. The other times, it’s a once before.
I agree; this was a fantastic episode!
Personally, I don’t belive in such notions as Good and Evil. I think there are many levels of Self-Less and Selfish. The more Selfish one is, the more “evil” they can be said to be. To that end, Rumplestiltskin (from here on out I’ll just refer to as Rumps; although I love Rumplebeast
) is shown to be very selfish.He’s a man who deeply resented not having power to protect his family from being pressed into war. And he selfishly protects his dark power in his contests with the evil queen, even at the cost of lossing a woman who loved him. Anyone ever see the 2008 movie Hancock? The movie where we learn the two immortals are “weak” when they’re together and in love, but “strong” when apart? This episode reminded me of that movie.
I have two theories that are – I admit – way out in left field. But here goes…
Remember when Mr. Gold gave those walkie-talkies to Emma? Well, it’s likely Mr. Gold has a third walkie-talkie listening on the same frequency(s) as the set he gave Emma. This never happened on camera, but perhaps there was a time when Emma and Henry were talking about the location of the book, and that’s how Mr. Gold knew the location where the book was buried. After which Mr. Gold hired The Stranger to dig up the book.
I’m not confident in that theory because we’ve seen Mr. Gold do his own digging (on a couple of occasions) so why he’d want to hire an outsider is beyond me. Also, why Mr. Gold would care about the book at all is beyond me. (However, I strongly believe Mr. Gold is listening in their converstations.)
Another left-field theory is The Stranger is the author of the book, and maybe The Stranger has a mystical link with it. When Henry tore out the last couple of pages from the book, the Stranger could sense the book had been damaged, so he sought it out. Furthermore this “sense” allowed him to find the buried box at the playground. This is all plausable but would be an odd direction for the show to go.
Something I noticed and have not heard anyone on the podcast mention: The very end of Friut of the Poisonous Tree, (or maybe it was 7:15AM, I forget), when you see The Stranger break the padlock of the box containing the book. There is a very brief moment when the camera is gliding by what looked to me like a set of thieves tools. Either The Stranger broke into Regina’s house (hence the need for a set of thieves tools,) or he just had them rolled out on his bed because that’s where he kept his padlock-busting sheers.
