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Marty McFly
ParticipantI have to say that with all that @%#&@!!@@! that JMO is spewing I am starting to inch toward sad town and I’ll soon enter the tent of doom. I am starting to really believe RG and have #nohope because … really? CS is a thing now? I guess it was true all along. Neal HAD to die and stay dead so that CS would happen.
sighOK I get it now
Phee wrote:
Tumblr post from someone who feels the same way about wasted Hook potential as I do. It’s long-ish, so I’ll just copy and paste one paragraph…sooo I’m not the only one
[adrotate group="5"]Marty McFly
ParticipantI used to love Rumbelle’s story, but now that they dispensed with Neal, the most important part of the entire story, Belle and Rumple just don’t interest me anymore. what have they got to tell, huh? what story do they even have anymore? nothing. they have been reduced to kissing partners. booooooorrriiiiing!
rumbelle became boring. if you’d have told me this a few months ago, that I would be bored by Rumbelle, I would tell you to stop smoking.
Marty McFly
ParticipantI read somewhere that it apparently some EmmaxHook fan might want to start a trend about trying “keep Neal dead” in response to the whole “stop once upon a hook” trend. They pretty much want to do anything in their power to keep Neal dead just some people are against Hook! I mean like chances are Neal won’t
come back alive anytime soon but that things like a attack to Neal/Baelfire fans and not everyone that is against Hook are Neal/Baelfire fans and SF fans. Seriously!I, as a non shipping ex-fan, I used to love Hook almost as much as I loved Cora. (and if ya’ll paid any attention to me you’d know Cora’s one of my favorite characters of all time) but now? I can’t stand the sight of him. and seeing him with Emma nauseates me. so I would definitely join a “stop once upon a hook” group. I hate on his character because his character was assassinated. the character that he was SUPPOSED to be. the character that he WAS before becoming the most BORING EMMA-SUITER ewww. I once loved him. just like I once loved Rumbelle I once loved Belle, but now I can’t stand her. I once loved Regina, but I really can’t care for her now. not when the story is missing its ESSENCE. Baelfire
Marty McFly
ParticipantOmg EVERYTHING to do with Hook was sidestepping the story. Everything! And not just sidestepping, making the characters ooc! For example, when Snow asked Emma why she kissed Hook she said “I felt good” what???? She’s in neverland, Neal was believed to be dead, Henry’s life was in danger and she felt good? What?
Their romance is like that annoying obstacle that keeps popping up and stalling everyone every time the story should be progressing further.
Marty McFly
ParticipantWhy complain, though. It’s not like Belle is really Belle anymore. Now she is fan-pandering Belle. Now she demands an apology from Regina and Hook, self respecting Belle, because this is what fans want. Never mind that Neal is “dead”. Neal? Wait, who’s Neal again?
Marty McFly
ParticipantAm I the only one who is bothered by Belle not talking about the elephat in the room? This was the first time he was free since THE LOSS OF THE CENTER OF HIS UNIVERSE (in RG’s words) its not like he, like the rest of them had time to mourn or even bury him. Where was he while belle was throwing shovelfuls of dirt into his child’s grave? Oh, right, he was being tortured in his cage.
It’s really nice that she is happy that he is alive, but HE is not. HE would rather his son be alive. Who gave Bae the idea that he could “bring him back”? Belle. Who did not use her “book-worm” skills to research what that key really does? Belle. Who did not even TRY to phisically grab that key away even though he might be stronger than her he wouldnt try to hurt her if she STOOD IN HIS WAY
Marty McFly
ParticipantFun webisode idea. Henry having to help clean the pawn shop finds a book of spells, cast a spell to have brooms and mops work on their own, but it goes haywire. Neal tries to help fix this by breaking the broom, but it only gets worst because the little pieces regenerate to even more brooms and mops. Finally Rumple comes on the scene with a very guilty Neal and Henry trying to fix this mess. Rumple with a sweep of his hands fixes it. Homage to Disney Sorcerer’s apprentice in Fantasia. Aww this would have been a cute webisode.
Oh I would LOVE to see that!!! and Neal’s hate for magic and horror at Henry’s little misdeed lol!! and grandpa gold is like oh don’t worry it isn’t DARK magic
Marty McFly
ParticipantCS fan-girls who own ABC are the madness. They demanded more of Hook and refused to let him fade away like Red and Tink and Archie (as he probably would have).
Imagine what the story would have been like if theABCfangurls wouldn’t have mixed in. what was Hook’s character supposed to portray?
Well, let’s start at the beginning: he was introduced in an episode called “the Crocodile” if you read the Peter Pan original text, the crocodile is the MOST two dimensional character in the entire story. ALL he wants is to eat Hook. There is no substance to him at all, he was there for comic relief only.
This was exactly what Hook was supposed to be. eye candy, funny villain, all he wants is to
eatkillHookGold but nothing more. In fact, when he was on his Jolly Roger and Gold asked if he was done trying to kill him, I was sure that Hook was lying through his teeth and he was only buying time so that he could kill him in Neverland where he was probably more “at home” and would have advantage over Gold.What did we see in season 2? Even in Tallahassee, he wasn’t flirting specifically only with Emma, he was flirting with everyone. EVERYONE! He was meant to be this way. Eye candy, fun, flirty overly sexualized, villain! What suddenly changed??
When Cora/Arora said to Emma that she thinks he cared about her he laughed about it saying it was a nice touch! (I can’t remember exactly.)The writers, I’m sure, had a deliciously wonderful Hook/Pan story to tell in Neverland about how Hook worked for Pan, how he made a deal with him (which undoubtedly would include his obsession with killing Rumpelstiltskin), how he killed Rufio etc. etc. etc. but they could not let that story happen because fans wanted a “good” hook because they wanted a Hook/Emma kiss.
So the writers altered the Neverland arc a bit so they could make Hook softer and less interesting, meanwhile, making Neverland a little less interesting.
Because they needed to feed the madness. They needed to give a little something-something to the CS fans…
So they made Neal disappear into the EF with Mulan and Arora and Philip, thereby giving the CS a little kissing time.
Thy HOPED that this would be enough, now they can go back to the real storytelling that they wanted to show, but unfortunately, when you feed the madness, when you give in a little bit to the fandom… it feeds on you. NOW they had to change the story in an even BIGGER way. Now the story is taking a turn that becomes VERY HARD to fix.
Because no matter how they do end it, no matter if the end WILL be Neal and Emma (or rather Baelfire and Emma, since Neal is already a baby), the story itself became so tragically altered, that all of the SUBSTANCE is gone. There is very little left of the original story they wanted to tell anymore…
Think about it
What was the purpose that hook served the story in the WHOLE season 3?? What?? He could have been so much better utilized as the villain STILL trying to kill Gold still trying to sabotage the meeting between Bae and Rumple like he did in SB. His purpose in Neverland as a double agent or ambiguous villain would have been SO MUCH MORE FUN AND INTERSTING!!!
Especially while he was still acting so sexualized and having chemistry with every character and her mother on the show.
Instead he was just dragging everyone along in the jungle and behaving in a very boring way doing almost nothing… and then when they were all in SB? He was just there. He had no story to tell at all! Tink had a story to finish in SB, she believed in herself, she got her wings back, but he? What was he there for? They kept focusing on his pretty face, but he was not adding anything to the story at all!
Also in the Oz arc, it is obvious that they are FORCING a story on him. He has no arc at all, but they are writing new and boring things just so that he should have a story.
If they had stayed true to what they meant to write, he would have faded away well before “Going Home.” There is very little for his character to do anymore by that time.
But alas, we had to see his pretty face on our screens and his pretty face had to be kissable by Emma, so we couldn’t have him be the deliciously cruel villain he was in season 2 anymore.
Now he has to become the boring pirate gone soft.
Because of his stupid empty-headed ABC ceo-fangurls, all the characters on this show died. Emma is not Emma anymore Gold is not really Gold anymore, Neal, well, Neal’s dead. Henry is not Henry anymore, even Regina is not really herself. All of the LIFE came out of the show, and all we have left is some CS fanfiction.
The last few minutes of the season said it best. We had kissing. We had shipping. But did we have substance? Story? Plot? No. but the shippers who only want kissing, well, they were happy.
Marty McFly
Participantfeed it
or rather feed him this
^^^^ this is shipping by the way ^^^
Marty McFly
ParticipantIt won’t be all goo-goo eyes and sweet kisses in the moonlight for Emma and Hook. And I’m actually okay with that — it’s their job to save the world on a regular basis and they’re pretty good at it. Domestic life just isn’t for them, which is totally cool. There’s also soon-to-be teenager Henry to deal with and we all know that’s not going to be easy on their new relationship.
can I go puke now?
go ahead, feed the madness.
I hope season 4 starts out with ratings that look like 0.2 or something. after all, who really cares about “once upon a hook”
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