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I see where this is obviously going, but I don’t think I have the patience to wait for it to get there. My patience with this show is already very thin, I don’t think I can put up with more CS and evil!Rumple.
The only logical conclusion for the series finale would be to have someone (Emma, or rather Henry) go back in time to the moment that Bae was going to open the vault and bring him to the future. easy peasy. This is why they even HAD this whole time travel thingie, no? but wait — —
NOW they got permission to do ANOTHER season, season 4!!! So they can’t just end the story can they? No, now bringing back Baelfire will have to be a lot more complicated. Now Rumple has to become a lying evil imp again so that he could work on his new motive, which is to bring back Baelfire.He and Henry might have a secret mission called “operation Pheonix” or “operation Baelfire” or something since they’re the only ones who seem really upset that Neal isn’t back from Emma’s trip to the past. Maybe, like zelena, Rumple would need a heart, a brain, courage and a true love baby. Between Henry and Rumple I’m sure they can get the 3 necessary ingredients, …… they can use Rumbelle new baby as the true love baby………. and then Rumple will stab himself (again) but this time in a way that turns him into a china statue ………that Henry will have to break in order to activate the new time portal … which Henry will enter to bring Neal with him back to the future. Thus erasing Rumple out of existence, so that everything he did since being let out of that vault would be undone. (there you go: Henry=Rumple’s undoing, Rumple being Balefired so that Baelfire can come back.)
remember that “killing Henry” nightmare Rumple was having in season 2?
Maybe if Rumple was destined to leave a child who will grow up without its’ father, it’d be this new child he had with Belle, since even though everything Rumple did would be undone, (because he was not really living, it was a borrowed life, borrowed from Bae), this new little baby will still exist because it was born out of true love. They can name the baby Goldy.
And then Rumple will stay dead so that HIS sacrifice wouldn’t be in vain.
Let’s hope ouat won’t get another season so they can stretch the story even MORE.
Why couldn’t they END the story and start a new one? Oh, right, because they NEED Robert Carlyle in the show, otherwise it wouldn’t be good TV, right?
Think about the whole 3B. it ALL could have happened WITHOUT Rumple being alive. In fact, many scenes would have had so much more emotional impact! The letter that Regina found…. Zelena being jealous that Rumple chose Regina…… Regina’s apology to Belle…… Hook’s apology to Belle….. Bae could have witnessed all that, and maybe had a talk with Regina about how he missed being mentored by his papa, and instead SHE got to spend so much time with him.
They could have shown the contrast of how Zelena’s jealousy was so different than Bae’s feeling of possessiveness (he was MY papa, all that time should have been spent with ME) how they each react to this jealousy etc. Zelena wanting to undo Regina, Emma and NEAL would go to the past and NEAL would have seen for himself (after hearing from Zelena) how dedicated his father was all these years to one single goal: finding him. Bae might then feel so sorry for his father that he would want to bring him back whatever the cost.It would have been so fitting, since Emma has already witnessed so many Papa/Bae moments.
The truth is that Hook had no room in this story at all, he wasn’t needed. His presence is so redundant here, that I am sure he is being set up as a villain.Zelena could have kept Neal prisoner so that she could take HIS blood to open the cabinet in Gold’s shop.
But NOOOOOOO Neal doesn’t have enough fanbase precious, precious fanbase… no one will want to watch an entire half season without rumbelle, right?
So now for the rest of the seasons we will see Emma kicking Villains’ butt with her new sidekick Hook, until she finds out what a villain HE is, and then Bae will come back just in time for a happy ending at the end of the show… I’m so sorry, E&A, but this is just not enough for me. I want more than a teeny tiny little happy scene in the end with Bae’s family. Isn’t it enough that he never got a chance to raise his son, he will only see him at the end of the show when Henry is already a young adult? How is this fair?
I don’t get this. WE are also fans aren’t we? Why don’t they pander to US???
[adrotate group="5"]You know what we haven’t seen yet? Rumple going to his son’s grave. Is there a reason why they show decided to skip that.
you know which scene just poped into my head because of you RG? from “the return” DO rumple digging in the ground crying Bae Bae I want to come with you Bae I want to come with you
Marty you will always be my favorite.
Honestly, making a clean break with the show is probably the best thing for my sanity, but I have a friend and RP partner who still enjoys it and I feel a little guilty for pouring my burning hate into her lap.
it warmed my heart to find out that someone here likes me. Most people here hate me because I am mad at Bae for being rude to his father. I tried to stay away from this thread, because it is too much ouat, and I am sick of this stupid exhausting show. But this IS home, I guess, and when you aren’t there you do miss it…
I’m sorry about your dad, ouatrandothought
And big hugs Corbin…
And A&E, you idiots, how can they call that baby Baelfire in the EF and Neal in SB??? Wtf??? There are no princes in SB you puckers! So if he is PRINCE Neal, he is Neal everywhere!
Idiots.…………. it’s OK, you can rub it in…
at least I know that I am not the only crazy one who gets depressed over puck like that
and I thought we’re gonna have a party
Marty: I don’t have hope, and the reason has nothing to do with the story of CS or SF–but everything to do with the way the writers seem to be catering to fans left and right in the corners of the story.
yes this is right. they DO pander to fans but not on such a large scale. fans want more Belle? fine she gets some story. fans want regina and Hook to apologize to Belle? fine, they do that. it isn’t done very well, but OK. (I happen to find these little scenes annoying, but OK)
they will never completely change the course of the whole story for fan pandering. maybe they are s-t-r-e-a-c-h-I-n-g it a little, you know? maybe this Hook/Emma thing was supposed to last less screentime, but because of the CS explosion they gave it some MORE screen time, but it was never meant to be and it won’t be.
The writers have said a few things that make me think this is not Emma and Henry’s fairytale, but Rumple, Regina and Hook’s, and Emma and Henry are simply the tools to give them their happy endings, rather than characters who are consistently written
I understand that if you may think that this tale is no longer Emma and Henry’s and is now Regina and Hook’s tale, OK, maybe it would make sense, but it can’t ever be Rumple’s fairytale without Baelfire, so I don’t know how you even think that.
anyway, stop listening to the interviews. I can see TONS of loopholes in what they say there.
Thank you everyone for posting here and encouraging a positive exchange of ideas bout my favorite character, Neal, and ship, Swanfire. I have enjoyed the reading this thread so much. I may be over with this show tonight – I may even be over it less than half way in, but I will always remember this thread with happiness. You guys are wonderful!!! I love thinking in multiple directions and I love the humor. I may choose to let the show end for me at 3×11 and just let it be. At least I won’t be mad at the lost potential and message anymore, just sad. Love to you all!
NO! I say watch till the end you will be pleasantly surprised!!! and, katsqueak, we will have a party!!!! right here in this thread!!!!
