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I know this may not belong in the sf thread, but I really can’t sleep! I am so angry that Neal died. how in heavans name will ouat fix this????? how will they bring him back after we saw him die???? but they must bring him back, or else why did they bother writing such an amazing story for Gold in 311? so how will they go around this dead is dead rule? how??
sigh.
oh, how I wish Gold would have been dead and never come back! was I complaining that the characters forgot him too fast? I take it back I TAKE IT BACK!!!! let Rumpel die. let everyone forget him, but please don’t let Baelfire die!!!!!!!! it’s not fair!!!!!!
why do they have to torture Rumpelstiltskin? why? let him rest in peace! he died, good, keep him dead. let his sacrifice MEAN something!!!!!
they wrote a wonderful episode in 311, and they went and UNDID it! ruined it killed it
I hate everybody now.
really. Rumpelstiltskin has nothing to live for now, nothing! KILL HIM ZELENA!!!! just kill him
[adrotate group="5"]will she learn it the way Regina taught it, or will she remember (I know she’s been through a lot, but) REMEMBER the first time she was taught magic?? when Gold told her that it isn’t an intellectual endeavor that she has to FEEL, not anger like Regina keeps telling her, but love, and the need to protect those she loves!! I know Regina is your best friend, but Gold already TAUGHT you a magic lesson! don’t forget Gold so fast, Gold is a very good teacher, Gold teaches each student according to her strengths!
If the monkey is Neal, I will eat my hat. they are assuming it too hard in the last few episodes with no proof to back themselves up. He is definitely NOT a monkey
I’m a little surprised at Emma. she was usually the only one who treated Gold like he was human, not just a means to an end. even before she knew he was Henry’s grandpa, she had some respect for him. now she calls him the dark one? I don’t like this
There are so many voices inside his had?I guess those are from all other Dark ones that existed.
I was thinking the voices were the prophesies he sees/hears? I was never quite clear on how that works… I know it’s like pieces to a puzzle…but maybe he’s getting too many pieces all at once?
I love this theory
Why doesn’t Emma heal Rumble she is suppose to be the most powerful she helped Rumple at the airport.
I believed Emma saved Rumple memories at the airport just like Emma was the one that did the Hat sending the wrath to FTL
yes it was definitely Emma who did the magic for regina in the beginning of season 2, and in the land without magic, she protected gold
looking for Gold so he can help them. they think only Gold could help them…
they aren’t really worried about HIM because he is ugly and unloved so no one will ever consider him to be a person with feelings. he is like that kid in school who is ugly and friendless, the one who is never invited to parties the butt of everyone’s jokes, yet is always approached when someone needs to copy from his homework. he is nothing but a means to an end for everyone. a beast indeed.
wow I just read through an amazing discussion about Milah!!!!!
here’s copy of some of it0ceanofdarkness:
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0ceanofdarkness replied to your post:It amazes me that someone can simply say “When you…
I presume this is about the Rumple made Milah unhappy therefore it was ok for her to crush his soul argument? If she was so freaking unhappy that her husband tried to come home to her and his son instead of dying, she could have just left.
Yep that’s the one. Basically it was “Well, if we’re going to take a look at her abuses, we need to consider the fact that he wouldn’t change his life to suit her needs.” Just NO. So he didn’t want to leave that town. There’s nothing wrong with that! But instead of saying to him “Well, I think it’s time we split up because I want something else” and leaving, she spends years abusing him and then finally leaves him after convincing him she’s been kidnapped by pirates.
I just find it unbelievable that people think that it’s ok to blame the victim for the abuses he’s gone through.
Well, the last time he tried to leave and start over somewhere else, I recall it didn’t work out so well. Obviously, he told Milah about his father because they discussed him. One presumes she might have had some insight into why he might have been reluctant to go somewhere new if she could manage to think about anything but herself for 2 seconds… not that she seemed to have any sympathy about that.
Bae certainly wasn’t keeping her there, since she couldn’t be bothered to care for him and preferred to spend her time drinking at the local tavern… she left him easily enough to run off with Hook.
Rumple didn’t want to leave his son fatherless because of his own childhood trauma, so he panicked and made a decision that was not well thought out and was ridiculed for it. All Milah could see was that he made her an object of ridicule too instead of an honored war widow. She gave no thought to how desperate he must have felt or how much he must have loved her and their son to endure that just to get home to his family.
She was a selfish, cruel woman who wanted to punish Rumple for what she saw as his shortcomings. If she felt trapped it was likely because she didn’t want to leave without a better prospect to go to. If she’d left on her own, she might have had to take responsibility for her own unhappiness… and we can’t have that!
Spot on! I always love your analyses of things. I forgot that Milah knew at least SOMETHING about his father. So she surely must have known that “starting over” for them meant being abandoned.
I really think you’re right on her reasons for not leaving. It wasn’t because she had any ounce of caring for him. She enjoyed punishing him and didn’t want to set off on her own until something better came along. Hook was there for…what? One night. And she left the next morning with him. She was just waiting around for someone to leave with. Which is sad not only for Rumple, but for Bae, who she abandoned without any regrets.
To me Milah was even more heartless than Cora, because she knew the Rumple who was an insecure, abandoned child who tried so hard to put all of that behind him and build a good life with her… and she crushed him out of pure selfish spite, she made everything his father let him believe about himself true.
People who defend her and blame Rumple for how she treated him just make me want to scream and break things, because
yeah, nothing abusive here at all…
He freaking hobbled himself to come home to his family, to make sure his son knew the love of a father and this is the welcome his poor put upon in no way abusive wife gives him…
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no venom there, no disgust written like a neon sign across her face… and it’s not like she told him to do her a favor and die or anything…
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and here she is so scared of the Dark One and his murderous rage that she cowers and begs him not to hurt her while totally not spewing venom up in his face…
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no evidence of any form of hurt and shock at all in his eyes because of course he feels no betrayal at all that he suffered years of abuse at the hands of a woman he thought loved him until he proved himself unworthy…
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no kind of trigger there that might have caused him to act rashly when he actually found himself empowered… nothing but sweetness and light and rainbows from a sad, unhappy spouse who totally had her life ruined by him, and didn’t let him believe she’d been raped and possibly killed by pirates because he wasn’t enough of a man to save her
season 3? season 3? are you kidding? in season 2
when Gold goes to Charming for advice about Lacy Charming says that you caused my wife to murder someone….. murder someone…………. yeah……….. someone who’d have killed all of you…..
does Charming ever stop and think where he and Snow would BE without Rumpelstiltskin? I know, DEAD, that’s where they’d all be.SOMEONE’S got to be the villain, the scapegoat, the dark one, the hated, so that the good people would have a chance at happiness…
