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No. the fear they made us feel while he was on the plane was not just a fear of no magic or a place that is “not his comfort zone”. no, this look, and music and the tangible fear that was displayed was fear of death.
Gold has been without magic for 28 years, and if you want to argue that he didn’t remember, well when he first heard Emma’s name, he DID remember, and did not look scared in the least bit. and THERE he was at a disadvantage, because Regina had SOME magic in her vault so he was with even less power…. OTOH, in Manhattan, he was JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. he had no magic, big deal…
the prophecy said he will find his son, and then he will die.
That’s why he was so scared. he never planned on killing Henry to avoid death, or he wouldn’t talk so nicely to him. It was RIGHT AFTER HE FOUND OUT he’s pan’s great grandson that he started having nightmares about killing henry, and acted so cold to him, and etc
the prophecy also said that the boy will be more than he seems. if he delved deeper into that puzzle while having the future-telling sight he might have seen a sign that this boy will be “another Peter Pan” or something like that.
[adrotate group="5"]oh…. wait, maybe they DO mean Robbie Kay as the actor was frozen because they said that they’d love to see him in flashbacks but not this season…?
Pan is frozen? I don’t know what that means. Pan as boy died………and Malcolm obviously should have has well
Dashing Lumiere? I’m SO excited to see him, lol
I think they mean Rumpel is frozen… I’m starting to feel a little less scared… 🙂
I would say Belle understands Rumple far more than Nealfire does.
THAT is an understatement. Nealfire never gave Rumpel a chance. I have a lot of bones to pick with him
the guy goes off to face a terrifying monsterous being in order to save HIS behind from death in the ogre wars (not to mention Moraine and all his other little friends) and all he could say to him is “you hurt people all the time”?? how about some love and understanding? I GET that he’s a kid and he wants his father back, and I get he’s just a kid, but why not try to help your poor father fight this curse?Help him go back, back to the best version of him.
I was stoked when Bae heard His father tell Belle that IT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. no it never did happen before, because Bae never gave him a chance.
then the bean. I UNDERSTAND that he made a deal, but honestly! you see the man is terrified and is trying to pull you out of the portal, LET HIM!! why pull him in? why force him to go through the portal from hell, if you see he is scared??
the worst comes in Manhattan. this whole “get out of my apartment gig. seriously, your father finally found you and you won’t even TALK?? “you’ve got three minutes” and then he has the audacity to say “two minutes” like shut up, I don’t care what you have to say. Pinoccio/August didn’t time him, so look at the difference of how he talked to him.
even Emma had a little more compassion for him and she was very quick to blame him for killing Archie
He wants to talk to you, and you’re timing him?? what’s wrong with you, Neal??Henry was a much better son to Regina than Baelfire was to Rumpelstiltskin, and there were many times that I wanted to shake Henry.
maybe Rumpelstiltskin didn’t raise Baelfire very well. Maybe all of his abandonment issues played a role in how he treated Bae in FTL (spoiled him rotten most probably) so when HE became the weak one, when it was HIM who needed help and emotional support, the kid couldn’t provide it.
I mean look at Never-land. look at how Neal keeps goading him, save David because it’s the right thing to do -no favors,, gimme your dagger, gimme the Pandora box, and what did Rumpel do? give him whatever he asked for (unless the shadow took it. never reprimanded him for using the squid ink on him. (really cruel thing to do)
whatever you say about Regina, she did raise her kid well. he is the most well-adjusted, compassionate, supportive, mature child I’ve ever seen. and yes, HE helped Regina go back to the best version of herself. and he was also just a kid. a younger kid than Bae even.
(i’m afraid that Emma is doing the same thing now to henry – letting all HER abandonment issues cloud her child-raising judgement, and now Henry will be a troublemaker like drive a car or whatever, but that’s for another thread)
I am sure this will be very unpopular here, but I don’t think that even Belle understood Rumpelstiltskin.
She certainly knew there was something there, under that sparkly skin and this “I/m a villain! I’m a coward! I’m a monster!” exterior, but I don’t think she realized that he really wasn’t any of that. at all.I mean, the first thing she tells him in SB after she remembered herself was “don’t give in to your hate” “hate?” he probably wanted to ask, “I don’t HATE Regina, I never have… I can’t say I’m not furious at her for locking you up, but hate is a strong word!”
and again when she talks about Hook she sais, “don’t let your hate for this man get in the way of that” He really doesn’t look like he hates Hook at all. even after almost killing him with dreamshade, all he did was ask him if he’s done trying to kill him. again, I’m sure he is very angry at him for stealing Milah from Bae, but he doesn’t seem to care that he flirts with Emma or that he sees all these unpleasant moments with no one trusting him especially his own son. he ignores Hook’s snide remark about the wardrobe change, and unlike Regina, he never said “I haven’t forgotten about that by the way” when talking about the elixir that can cure David. Maybe I’m blinded, but I really don’t see any hatred radiating toward Hook at all.
maybe if he’d seen this…
it’s all just way, way back in the past to care about. Sorry, Hook, you’re just not important enough to hate.I never entered this thread but wanted to respond to a post without overtaking the Who’s filming Thread.
I think Belle would’ve fallen for pre-dark one Rumple. She loves him for who he is, not because of his power. Rumple does love Belle, they’re true love.
belle was brave, well off, adventurous. pre-dark Rumple was a snivelling coward who would not scarifice himself for anyone. I don’t think Belle would find that attractive. He was a very passive man who would rather wallow in self-pity and poverty than to try to move to a new town to make a fresh start. Why would Belle find that attractive? why would she give up a good life for a weak man who refused to help himself and his family in a healthy productive watt, instead of becoming the dark one? Belle would be just as exasperated as Milah but probably not as snappish.
actually, He was not a coward at all! he believed himself to be a coward, because everyone branded him so, but he didn’t look afraid to go to the Ogres war at all, in fact he seemed excited. The only reason he freaked out about dying in the war was because he was worried about his child growing up without a father.
Knowing Milah, as much as he loved her, he must have realized that she wouldn’t be a great parent to his child, so he needed to stay alive so he could protect his child. this is not cowardly at all, in fact it’s the ultimate kind of bravery = to go against the times against what is considered “IN” against what people admire, to do the “wrong” thing in order to protect the person you love.
that’s bravery, not cowardice.
Belle would have LOVED pre-curse Rumpel.
she ALSO hated conforming to her times and what people considered to be an “IN” woman (marrying a hottie – Gaston) no, she went against what was considered “honorable” to women of her time/place and went off with a beast “forever” and being shunned for it. for her “associations” with such a beast. so yeah, Rumpel and Belle have a lot of the same characteristics.
they both go against the tide.Aside from the fact that Bae would (andSHOULD) be jealous of Regina for the time she has spent raising his son, and learning life lessons from his father
I’m so dissappointed that snowing and Regina will talk about giving up their child but no mention of baelfire and Regina giving up Henry…. I need a Bae/Regina talk scene….
I am jumping onto the wicked sisters bandwagon.
what if rumpstiltskin knew that Cora’s first born will cast a curse… And he thought Regina was the first born so he turned her evil for no reason thinking that she’ll have to cast a curse because that is her destiny that is her future, meanwhile it was really the www future as SHE is really Cora’s oldest child…
Good theory?
