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MatthewPaul
ModeratorI don’t think Robin’s death triggers Hook’s return, but rather it comes down to awkward timing. Hades kills Robin with that Olympian Crystal, and I’m still guessing that Zeus is responsible for bringing Hook back via the ambrosia. I guess it’s a life for a life in the sense that the writers felt that there needed to be another major death in return for Hook coming back. I’m sure from Regina’s point of view, she’ll end up blaming Emma, since Robin wouldn’t have died had they not gone to the Underworld in the first place.
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ModeratorMajor spoilerly promo pics. Pretty sure these weren’t supposed to be posted until after the episode aired, but certain sites already got access to these:










MatthewPaul
ModeratorOh. Unless it’s the Land Without Color and that’s where they meet Jekyll/Hyde?
It could also be Alice’s Victorian England or they randomly decide to create yet ANOTHER new world. As if we need anymore Fictional Englands…
MatthewPaul
ModeratorUpdate. New additions in bold
Number of characters giving birth: 4
1. AIRED April 28: Annie/Game of Silence
2. AIRED May 1: Jane/The FamilyNumber of couples having sex, kissing or saying “I Love You” for the first time: 17
1. AIRED April 29: Klaus and Cami say “I love you”/The Originals
2. AIRED April 29: Hank and Zuri have sex/Grimm
3. AIRED May 1: Zelena and Hades share first kiss/Once Upon a Time
4. AIRED May 2: Mary and Gideon have sex/Reign
5. AIRED May 2: Xo and Esteban/Jane the Virgin
6. AIRED May 3: Severide and Stella/Chicago Fire
7. AIRED May 3: Jimmy and Sara kiss/Grandfathered
8. AIRED May 4: Roman and Burgess have sex/Chicago P.D.
9. AIRED May 4: Jamal and Derek (D-Major) have sex/Empire
10. AIRED May 4: Layla and Avery have sex/NashvilleNumber of fatalities: 21
1. AIRED April 28: Felicity/The Catch
2. AIRED April 29: Rayna/The Vampire Diaries
3. AIRED April 29: Cami/The Originals
4. AIRED April 29: Davina/The Originals
5. AIRED May 2: Jeffrey/Reign
6. AIRED May 2: Alexandra/Blindspot
7. AIRED May 3: Alisha/Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
8. AIRED May 3: Elias/Person of Interest
9. AIRED May 4: Andy/Arrow
10. AIRED May 4: Milo/Arrow
11. AIRED May 4: Harper/EmpireNumber of breakups/divorces: 8
1. AIRED April 28: Stephanie and Kyle/Grey’s Anatomy
2. AIRED April 28: Cyrus and Michael/Scandal
3. AIRED May 1: Emma and Hook/Once Upon a Time
4. AIRED May 4: Scarlett and Gunnar/NashvilleNumber of characters leaving town: 6
1. AIRED April 28: Adam/MomNumber of resurrections and/or big returns: 10
1. AIRED April 28: Carter/DC’s Legends of Tomorrow
2. AIRED May 3: Henry/The Flash
3. AIRED May 3: The Machine/Person of Interest
4. AIRED May 4: “Mr. Scratch”/Criminal Minds
5. AIRED May 4: Chuck/SupernaturalNumber of onscreen firings/resignations/major job changes: 17
1. AIRED April 28: Alex fired/Scandal
2. AIRED April 29: Matt promoted to sergeant/The Vampire Diaries
3. AIRED May 1: Liam transferred-promoted/Quantico
4. AIRED May 2: Dudley promoted to Earl of Leicester/Reign
5. AIRED May 2: Jane lost her TA job/Jane the Virgin
6. AIRED May 3: Schmidt fired, re-hired in lower position/New GirlNumber of engagements/question poppings: 4
1. AIRED April 29: Matt proposes to Penny/The Vampire Diaries
2. AIRED May 2: Mary and Dudley engaged/ReignMatthewPaul
ModeratorProbably. they have to come up with some way to rationalize why Robin can’t come back to life if he is in fact dead for good next week
It could have to do with the Olympian Crystal, the Magical MacGufin of the week. Maybe the Olympian Crystal has the power to kill a God, so if Hades uses it to kill Robin, then Robin dies in a way that can’t be undone. Otherwise, you’d think Regina would try a heart split the moment he dies.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorMaybe. Snow and Emma were supposed to be in the EF for longer; we had King George’s plot in SB that went nowhere fast; FrankenWolf (though that’s clearly over now); and they could flesh out the Home Office a bit more with some clever writing since Peter is now dead and the Lost Boys are…somewhere
Just thought of something else repeated from an earlier Season. We know that Snow, Charming, Hook and Zelena accidentally get sucked into a portal to some other realm, and have to return. This sounds a lot like Season 2A in itself, but condensed into two episodes.
MatthewPaul
ModeratorAnyone else feel like the show is going backwards—season wise at least?
S5 (both A and B) had some serious S3A and B overtones and now S6A is set up like S2B. So is 6B going to look like 2A–maybe this time Charming and Emma get trapped in the EF and have to battle someone in order to get back home? There’s an awful lot of plot that got forsaken in 2 once NVL happened.
Could they be going back to the ideas they originally had for the end of Season 2 into Season 3, before Neverland got greenlit?
MatthewPaul
ModeratorThat seems fairly likely. Not sure if I like it…but it seems likely. Rumple’s been doing it nonstop, Hook became the DO, so now it’s Regina’s turn.
When Robin’s death was first rumored, didn’t we theorize way back when that it could be so that the writers could find a way to bring back the Evil Queen? Looks like we’re revisiting that theory…
MatthewPaul
ModeratorScorecard is updated again:
Number of characters giving birth: 4
1. AIRED April 28: Annie / Game of Silence
2. AIRED May 1: Jane/The FamilyNumber of couples having sex, kissing or saying “I Love You” for the first time: 9
1. AIRED April 29: Klaus and Cami say “I love you”/The Originals
2. AIRED April 29: Hank and Zuri had sex/Grimm
3. AIRED May 1: Zelena and Hades share first kiss/Once Upon a Time
4. AIRED May 2: Mary and Gideon had sex/ReignNumber of couples reuniting: 5
1. AIRED April 28: Owen and Amelia / Grey’s AnatomyNumber of fatalities: 21
1. AIRED April 28: Felicity / The Catch
2. AIRED April 29: Rayna/The Vampire Diaries
3. AIRED April 29: Cami/The Originals
4. AIRED April 29: Davina/The Originals
5. AIRED May 2: Jeffrey/Reign
6. AIRED May 2: Alexandra/BlindspotNumber of breakups/divorces: 8
1. AIRED April 28: Stephanie and Kyle / Grey’s Anatomy
2. AIRED April 28: Cyrus and Michael / Scandal
3. AIRED May 1: Emma and Hook/Once Upon a TimeNumber of characters leaving town: 6
1. AIRED April 28: Adam/MomNumber of resurrections and/or big returns: 10
1. AIRED April 28: Carter / DC’s Legends of TomorrowNumber of onscreen firings/resignations/major job changes: 17
1. AIRED April 28: Alex fired / Scandal
2. AIRED April 28: Matt promoted to sergeant/The Vampire Diaries
3. AIRED May 1: Liam transferred-promoted/Quantico
4. AIRED May 2: Dudley promoted to Earl of Leicester/Reign
5. AIRED May 2: Jane lost her TA job/Jane the VirginNumber of engagements/question poppings: 4
1. AIRED April 29: Matt proposes to Penny/The Vampire Diaries
2. AIRED May 2: Mary and Dudley engaged/ReignMatthewPaul
ModeratorAs I said in another thread, I don’t think Regina will become the Evil Queen again by choice. I highly suspect that she is somehow given Jekyll’s potion, and turns into the Evil Queen against her own will. I think the writers miss writing certain characters when they were evil, and can’t help but figure out ways to do so again in the present. We’ve seen them do so with Rumple countless times, and we even saw them do it with Hook at the end of 5A. However, they want to have their cake and eat it too. By using Jekyll’s potion, they aren’t necessarily going against Regina’s character development and long term redemption. This would be like the Spell of Shattered Sight again, but probably more long term. She could also transform back and forth, which could add a new dimension to this.
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