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Oh, one other thing that I do think qualifies Frozen as being a shark jump (even with the “it fits!” qualifier from my first post). The arc of S4A largely focused (almost exclusively) on the Frozen gang. They were not guest stars who only appeared when the main cast needed them to, but they more or less took over the show. Almost every centric had then worked in somehow, something OUAT has never done before. Every scene with the exception of the long arching Author search was tied to Frozen and what the Frozen crew needed.
It’s like bringing on a really cute kid and making every episode about that cute kid and their antics, taking time away from the other characters. (Looking at you Cosby show, when they introduced Olivia to the character line up).
We even had flashbacks that either had no regulars or a regular only made a cameo appearance.
“A Tale of Two Sisters” – Anna, Elsa and Kristoff. None of the regular cast were involved.
“White Out” – Anna and David.
“Rocky Road” – Elsa, Kristoff, Hans and Ingrid. None of the regular cast were involved.
“The Apprentice” – Anna, Rumple and the Apprentice.
“Breaking Glass” – Emma and Lily. One of the few flashbacks not to include the Frozen characters. Ingrid does appear when Emma and Hook look through Emma’s old camcorder, but it wasn’t a part of the main flashback, and Ingrid was at least an original character to OUAT.
“Family Business” – Belle, Anna, Elsa, and Ingrid.
“The Snow Queen” – Ingrid, Gerda, Helga, and the Duke. Rumple appeared, but only for one scene, so it’s not like the flashback heavily involved him.
“Smash the Mirror” – Anna, Elsa, Kristoff, and Ingrid. Again Rumple appears, but only for one scene, and this was a flashback over the course of a 2 hour episode.
“Fall” – Anna, Elsa, Kristoff, and Hans. None of the regular cast were involved.
“Shattered Sight” – Emma and Ingrid. Another flashback not to feature the Frozen characters, at least not the ones from the movie.
“Heroes and Villains” – Rumple, Belle, and the Queens of Darkness. Another flashback not to feature the Frozen characters.So yeah, the problem was that since almost all of the flashbacks in 4A were about the Frozen characters, that took character development away from the main cast.
[adrotate group="5"]Whether MRJ returning is true or not, one thing’s for sure. The timing of these recent events has been bizarre. The Mark Isham leak, Sean’s Instagram photos, and now this Blind Item. It’s hard for fans not to suspect that something is up. It remains to be seen if this means anything, or if this has been a series of mere coincidences.
Wait wait wait. Deleted scenes are canon? All of them?
I think he meant that the ones released on the DVD and Blu-Rays are, which has been the case since forever.
@yvrshoots Gaston and bell Shooting at Robert Bby Park
— Jenn Tanguay (@Jenn_Tanguay) January 22, 2016
@AshAshmarie20 @UponASpoiler @yvrshoots yes gaston was. Bell was in a car so I couldn't see
— Jenn Tanguay (@Jenn_Tanguay) January 22, 2016
Eddie Thawne on The Flash. That’s my guess.
The article said it’s a long running show. The Flash is only in its second Season, so that hardly qualifies.
Still not sure if is MRJ, bc he was in Vancouver this week not the last one. The last week he was in LA at the TCAs, and they say undetected, not sure how pictures in social media posted by Sean and Colin of them 3 and JMO posting pics of her and Seans, Colins and MRJ`s wives having drinks are undetected, since confirmed they were in Van, but ok.
But ok, im a bit more open to say there is like a 5%( and im being very good with this percentage) that he may do a cameo, even tho i dont like this idea not even a bit.
Actually, wasn’t Sean’s first photo from last Saturday? If by some chance this article is about MRJ, he could have hypothetically filmed his scenes on the Friday before, and then stuck around to hang out with Sean and Colin for the holiday weekend.
Now to be fair, I could add a few supporting arguments that could point to this article not being about MRJ:
1) What is TVLine’s definition of long-running drama? Yeah OUAT is in its 5th Season, but it depends on how long they mean.
2) ” No small feat given how the character in question was originally written off the show.” Would Neal appearing in the Underworld really be considered “no small feat”, if they’re talking about how Neal’s return would work story wise?Seems like more and more fuel keeps getting added to the MRJ returning speculation…Especially when MRJ WAS in Vancouver last week.
I don’t even care how much the finale wraps up everything. I just want a S3. I will sacrifice to the dark lords of TV if I have to
Makes you wonder what had to be sacrificed to even get Season 2. Ultimately, I think Paul Lee is just crazy and renewed it anyway just because he’s a big fan. Sadly I’m not so sure he’ll manage to work another miracle, though. In the meantime, I would suggest that as many of us buy the episodes and/or the music as we can. Since we don’t have Nielsen boxes (to my knowledge. I’m certainly not a Nielsen household), that’s the main way we could contribute to the show directly.
BTW, I believe I saw the TVGrimReaper joke recently that if Season 3 happens, that they should name the Season 3 premiere “Don’t Fear the Reaper.” lol!
David and Henry? Unexpected and something we haven’t seen in a *long* time.
Considering this scene has made it into the editing stage, hopefully that means it doesn’t end up on the cutting room floor. We know that they do film a lot of great character scenes that unfortunately get cut for time.
