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I guess some of you guys missed the mod note that was posted earlier:
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Let’s not get toooooo bogged down in this conversation, at least not in this thread. It is the filming thread after all, used for spoilers of what’s going on on set. Feel free to make another thread for the canon debate, by all means.
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[adrotate group="5"]The cast has been announced:
http://tvline.com/2016/01/23/dead-of-summer-cast-freeform-mark-indelicato/
Good to know that one item is over and done with. Means that Milah’s appearance (and the ever possible Neal appearance) is brief and perfunctory; nothing to cause angst to either CS or Rumbelle.
I mean, Milah’s probably only appearing in 514, and that will be it for her involvement this Season. Emma and Milah’s meeting may play out as more so comedic, than actually causing long-term drama.
If this Underworld thing drags on until the end of the season, I could totally see Rumple staying behind in the Underworld to let Neal return to the land do the living as a way to atone for how horribly Rumple screwed up his second chance (especially if Robert Carlyle leaves after this season since his contract will be up). However, that would probably be too much to expect from these writers. I don’t trust them to handle Neal’s likely return nearly that well.
The problem with Neal returning to the land of the living, whether MRJ returns for Season 5 or not, is that MRJ is still a series regular on a different show on a competing network. He’s also not just a series regular on Game of Silence, but the 2nd billed lead of it. There’s already been talk of doing a 2nd Season, too. OUAT Season 5 is supposed to wrap up filming by April 1st, while Game of Silence doesn’t premiere until April 7th. Neal returning as a guest star this Season is one thing, but to expect him to actually return as a series regular is another thing entirely. Even if Adam and Eddy actually wanted him back permanently, there’s little they can do when the actor is already committed as a series regular on another show.
A bit late, but I found out that this particular blind item was already revealed, and it didn’t have to do with OUAT. Just in the event that anyone was still theorizing about this:
Happy holidays, Good Wife fans! Hope you can hold out ’til Season 7 resumes on Jan. 10, 2016! (Oh, and yes, this was the answer to TVLine’s most recent Blind Item!)
http://tvline.com/2015/12/13/the-good-wife-recap-alicia-will-voicemail-deleted-eli-season-7/
The show airs on a broadcast network (i.e. ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC or The CW)
The show is a veteran for the network and has been on air for five or more seasons.
The character in question is a series regular on the show, and not a recurring character.
The pregnancy is not a result of a one-night stand, meaning the to-be parents are or were in a relationship.This very well might be referring to Belle. I won’t be surprised in the slightest if it is.
Editing #OnceUponATime — hope to see ya 3/6 for the mid-season premiere! #OnceTurns100 pic.twitter.com/71dbKR9VXD
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) January 23, 2016
Something I glanced over while reading the Ad rates for the 2013-2014 Season. Once Upon a Time in Wonderland’s ad rates only cost $97,136. Wow, that goes to show that ABC and/or advertisers had no faith in the series from the very beginning. No wonder the show’s CGI budget was horrendous, even worse than the parent show.
Yeah I don’t either. I’m not sure what the logic behind that it, but there can really be no doubt that the reason why S5 got more money after several seasons of decrease in revenue was because of Frozen.
The only guess I have is that ABC sweet talked the advertisers into thinking that perhaps Season 5A could get a similarly nice boost just like 4A did. That still doesn’t make much sense, when really who was expecting the Camelot characters and the Dark Swan to boost ratings significantly compared to the mainstream pop culture tie-in that was Frozen? In fact, for the first time ever, we got a premiere that didn’t increase from the previous finale:
Season 1 finale: 3.3
Season 2 premiere: 3.9
Season 2 finale: 2.3
Season 3A premiere: 2.6
Season 3A finale: 1.9
Season 3B premiere: 2.4
Season 3B finale: 2.3
Season 4A premiere: 3.5
Season 4A finale: 1.7
Season 4B premiere: 2.2
Season 4B finale: 1.8
Season 5A premiere: 1.8
Season 5A finale: 1.3Season 2 premiered .6 points ahead of Season 1’s finale, Season 3A premiered .3 points ahead of Season 2’s finale, Season 3B premiered .5 points ahead of Season 3A’s finale, Season 4A premiered 1.2 points ahead of Season 3B’s finale, and Season 4B premiered .4 points ahead of Season 4A’s finale. Season 5B’s premiere, on the other hand, was flat with Season 4B’s finale at a 1.8.
The problem we’re suffering from in this thread is definition because everyone knows the term “shark jump” but aren’t really applying it properly. Neal’s death is a turning point that shifts the themes of the show from family to romance. Frozen is the shark jump designed to get viewers to stay so that the show can slog on for another few years (a goal that was achieved because the first few episodes out of the gate for 4A was so high that the the fall to the end of the season was longer and not as steep which allowed ABC to very easily agree to a S5)
I have to wonder if the Frozen boost is what ABC used to convince advertisers to actually spend MORE money on Season 5 compared to Season 4, despite the ratings decline in 4B. I mean I still don’t get why advertisers would agree to giving the show more money with 4B’s ratings decline, but what do I know. If that is the case, Frozen also benefited the show in regards to boosting ad revenue. Here at the ad prices for Seasons 2-5, with links to the sourced articles:
Season 2 – $203,537 (http://adage.com/article/media/tv-ad-prices-idol-match-football/237874/)
Season 3 – $173,062 (http://adage.com/article/media/tv-ad-prices-football-king/244832/)
Season 4 – $136,538 (http://adage.com/article/media/football-big-bang-tv-s-expensive-ad-buys/295130/)
Season 5 – $155,596 (http://adage.com/article/media/ad-pricing-chart-sunday-night-football-empire-broadcasts-most-expensive-ad-buys/300516/)
