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The opening number from Season 2!: http://deadline.com/2015/12/galavant-season-2-opening-musical-number-renewal-emmy-snub-scheduling-1201657886/
[adrotate group="5"]Given some of the interviews that came out today, it sounds like we will see Merida and the Camelot Crew again. Anyone wanna place some money that the show will just edit in the deleted scenes from 5×11 to the S5B episode and that’ll be that?
The interviews today also confirmed that they still plan to bring back Mulan and Ruby for 5B, so perhaps they wanted Merida to stick around longer so that she can reunite with them?
Amy Manson has since deleted those retweets. Either she retweeted them not realizing the slams at the show, or she got in trouble. Thing is, we don’t know for sure how Amy really feels.
Will any of the new characters from this season still be around for the second half?
Kitsis: We’re going to see Merida again, and the Camelot people are still there. But the main focus is obviously going to be on our core characters, which it usually is.I’ll believe it when I see it. If they’re being truly genuine, and that they’ll return, perhaps the reason their scene was cut last night was because they wanted to keep them in Storybrooke longer?
Are only evil people in the underworld? It’s like hell, right?
Horowitz: It’s not hell. The underworld isn’t hell — it is a place between. It’s the place for people with unfinished business, so it’s not about good or evil.
First of all, they say its not Hell, yet the characters on the show itself keep calling it so? Second of all, the Underworld is not the one set destination for the dead, but a sort of purgatory for select people good or bad? I guess the later is how they plan to get around avoiding certain characters they can’t get back like Neal and Graham. A Young Baelfire was spotted filming with Rumple and Milah, but it could have just been for a flashback and not for the present day Underworld.
“It’s almost identical to Storybrooke,” Lana Parrilla says. “It reminds me of when Marty McFly goes back to his old neighborhood, it’s just different and torn down, there’s graffiti everywhere. Storybrooke doesn’t look the same at all.”
When I first saw the set photos for the Underworld last month, I admit I too was reminded of Back to the Future Part II. In Back to the Future Part II, the Biff Tannen from 2015 goes back to 1955 and gives his younger self a sports almanac, which allows himself to make a fortune off of gambling. Since the sports almanac reveals all the winners of any sporting event til the end of the century, Biff simply had to bet on the winner. As a result, Marty McFly ends up returning to an alternate 1985 version of Hill Valley. The town is all run done, crime is everywhere, and worst of all Biff is large and in charge. The filmmakers have referred to this version of Hill Valley as “Hell Valley.” To quote Doc Brown, “No, it’s Hill Valley, although I can’t imagine Hell being much worse!” It’s no secret that Adam and Eddy are huge Back to the Future fans, considering that the Season 3 finale was a whole big homage to the original film. It wouldn’t surprise me if Back to the Future Part II’s Hell Valley was an intentional inspiration here.
1) What was your favorite episode of 5A? – “Dreamcatcher.” Out of all the episodes, I enjoyed this episode the most and had the least issues with it. It started out great with that flashback of Nimue turning Merlin into a tree, and finally meeting Merlin was rather nice. The Henry and Violet stuff was actually very cute, and it was heartbreaking to see what Emma did to them just to get Henry’s tear. This episode planted the seeds of what could have been Emma truly gradually transitioning into the Dark Swan, but sadly that wasn’t what we got. The main reason I liked this episode is that it felt the most organic and heartfelt out of the bunch.
2) What was your least favorite episode of 5A? – “The Bear King.” This episode is the definition of filler, and added nothing to the overall plot of this half of the Season. We had Zelena and Arthur off to find King Fergus’ enchanted helm, only for them to fail and return to Camelot completely empty handed. Aside from Snow appearing in a brief flashback, Zelena was the only series regular to star in this episode at all, which also hurt the episode. We find out that Arthur killed King Fergus, and that Merida wants revenge. But guess what? Her scene bringing back a captured Arthur through a portal back to Camelot ended up being cut from “Swan Song”, making this episode even more pointless. Mulan and Ruby are just there, and were apparently supposed to setup an LGBT relationship. However, the episode itself continued to act vaguely about Mulan’s sexuality. They still didn’t outright confirm that it was Aurora that Mulan had feelings for. They explained why Ruby has been absent since the end of Season 3, but I found it odd that it was due to Ruby feeling like she was an outcast back in Storybrooke.
3) Overall thoughts on the Dark Swan/Camelot arc? – It started out with a lot of promise, but it definitely fell apart around “The Bear and the Bow.” It really felt like they changed their original plans for this arc halfway through. What happened to King Arthur’s plan to turn Storybrooke into the New Camelot? Why did Merlin say that finding Nimue would be able to help them defeat the Dark One? Why wasn’t there like any foreshadowing for Hook becoming a Dark One? Did the writers get cold feet making Dark Swan go too dark, out of fear that it would be too out of character, so they changed things up?
Arthur became too pathetic of a villain, and I disliked the way they handled his backstory. Lancelot was wasted and contributed very little to the plot. Merida and the other Brave stuff was completely pointless and felt so disconnected from the Camelot stuff. As much as people complained about the Frozen characters last year, at least they were much more connected to the arc and I found them much more enjoyable to watch. With Brave, it just all felt empty to me, and it doesn’t help that I found the original movie to be rather meh to begin with.
I enjoyed some aspects of Dark Hook. It was cool to see Hook as a villain again, and Colin was totally having fun with the part. His sword fight with Rumple was great entertainment in itself. However, I felt that Hook went dark way too quickly, and that they went too far with his dark side. Plenty of CSers and Non CSers have been critical about the Dark Hook plotline. It’s confusing, because haven’t the writers been catering to CSers since Season 3? Why do all this damage to that relationship, when they knew Dark Hook wasn’t going to last and Emma was going to journey to the Underworld to get him back anyway? They should have either had Hook go evil with a bang, or not have him go evil again at all.
Did they really have to make Rumple the Dark One AGAIN? I thought the whole point of his character arc this Season was to transition from a coward hiding behind magic to a brave hero learning to live as a mortal man. Wasn’t the entire point of 5A to destroy the Dark One once and for all, or so it seemed like that was the intended direction? Rumple becoming the Dark One again just resets so much, and brings him right back to where we left him at the end of Season 4. I am tired of these villains flip flopping. I was sick of when back when Regina was still going back and forth, and I’m at my limit with Rumple. Rumple has to have the record number of times for any character to flip flop. Make up your mind, writers!
As I mentioned above, they completely cut Merida, Arthur, and Guinevere from the finale. We know they filmed a scene with Merida taking a captured Arthur back to Camelot through a portal. Their scene in question was supposed to tie up those loose ends. Thanks to cutting that scene, we’re left under the impression that Arthur remains locked up at the sheriff’s station, and that Merida is still in Storybrooke away from her family back at DunBroch. I’m not even a fan of those characters, but cmon’ that stuff needs to be resolved. They were still heavily featured recurring characters of this storyarc. That would be like if they had cut Anna and Elsa returning to Arendelle in “Heroes and Villains.”
4) Who was your favorite new character? – Merlin by far. Elliot Knight did a great job bringing in an entirely new and original take on the character. It’s a huge shame that they had to kill him off.
5) What was your favorite moment? – My favorite moment was when Emma first reveals herself as the Dark Swan at the end of the premiere. She gave such a chilling entrance, and Jennifer Morrison did a splendid job. It was a great look at the potential this storyarc could have been, though sadly failed to deliver.
6) What was your favorite plot twist? – The reveal that the Dark One dagger was a missing piece of Excalibur. It just made a lot of sense, and felt very organic to the show’s mythology. We always knew that the dagger was a very powerful weapon, and that Merlin had fashioned it. We also knew that Merlin fashioned Excalibur, thanks to what Charming mentioned in “Lost Girl.” It totally adds up that the two weapons were connected.
7) What was your least favorite plot twist? – Rumple becoming the Dark One again. See my rant above for the details.
8) Overall grade for 5A and final thoughts? – I would honestly have to give it a C+. I did start out really enjoying this Season and there was a ton of potential, but so much of the faults ruined this storyarc for me.
Also, if it’s a life for a life…who will sacrifice their life to allow Hook to come back to Our World?
I took what Emma said about splitting her heart with Hook’s to avoid having to pay with another life.
For what its worth, Amy Manson retweeted some not so nice fan tweets about the show tonight, so she may not be happy herself that her scenes for the episode were cut: https://twitter.com/AmyMansonLondon
