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In 321 we see Belle being (quite comfortably) with Rumple at the time of 103, when Snow and Charming first met. If we forget about the wand for a second, and simply focus on Belle’s timeline, this does seem to fit (even if it’s slightly awkward):
By 220 Belle is already with Rumple, though it’s still new (I think he called her a “new maid”, though I could be remembering that wrong. Either way I got the impression that he hadn’t had Belle for very long.) 220 is also where Rumple tells Regina to bankrupt George’s kingdom. By 106, and thus 103 which follows directly afterwards, the kingdoms is bankrupt, which suggests some time has passed, simultaneously allowing Belle to reach the level of comfort she is at in 321. (She seems to have been there for a while and gotten used to it all by then.)
I’m assuming she left Rumple quite shortly after this, though, in order to have time to meet Dreamy before Grumpy ends up in the cell with Snow (which should be roughly a month or two after 103).
Now, bringing in the wand into all of this is where it gets complicated, obviously. It gets stolen by Robin in 219, which is taking place not long after Belle arrived at the Dark Castle, possibly around the same time as 220. In 220 George’s kingdom hadn’t actually started going bankrupt yet, which is where they are at in 106 when Rumple gets the info about the fairy godmother from George.
Of course, it’s possible that 219 is actually a bit later than 220, but it still can’t be taking place after 106, since in 106/103 Belle has clearly been at the castle longer than she had in 219 (as seen in 321, which takes place at the same time as 103) (god, this is getting confusing).
Basically, I see two solutions:
a) Cinderella’s fairy godmother is the original owner of the wand Robin stole (putting the beginning of 104 before 219), but not the fairy godmother that George tells Rumple about (as she is already dead by the time of 106)
b) she is the fairy godmother from George, which means it’s taking place after 219 and is therefore not the same wand, or the wand after Robin has returned it to the fairies.
If option a is true then that leaves the question of what did he want the second fairy godmother for? One possibility is that he simply needed a new wand, since Robin stole his old one. Actually this is probably true either way, since if option b is right then we quite clearly see him getting a second one (or getting the first one back) after Robin took the first one.
Ultimately, as far as I can tell, there is just no way for the sequence of events to have gone: 1. talking to George, 2. killing ella’s fairy, 3. Robin stealing the wand – simply because in any version of events, according to Belle’s timeline, Robin stole the wand before the George thing, regardless of when the killing of the fairy took place.
[adrotate group="5"]moonaeParticipantBeing from Sweden where the stepsisters are called Petronella and Gabriella (no last name), it took me a embarrassingly long time to figure out what was going on in this thread.
I like it though. I thought it was a bit weird when they mentioned it at first, as my first thought was the russian princess, who’s a real person and doesn’t really fit in.
moonaeParticipantis it possible that rumple simply hasn’t quite let go of his past yet? i mean, he dropped the doll, but maybe some part of him is still holding on to it and so it keeps coming back
moonaeParticipant@Swanning-Off wrote:
It always annoyed me that the Disney-fied version of the story has Esmerelda falling in love with Quasimodo and everyone living happily ever after.
actually, the disney version has esmeralda with phoebus, though they do live happily ever after
moonaeParticipantI’m a bit disapointed that regina and neal have been face to face twice now and she hasn’t even seemed to notice that he’s a new guy. I get that they may not have all that much time each episode, but they could at least have her glance sideways at him wondering who the **** he is.
moonaeParticipantWasn’t Mulan’s sword magical in some way?
moonaeParticipantam i the only one that was surprised that snow and charming knew about the dagger? I mean isn’t it supposed to be secret, or has that gone out of the window in the last few centuries since he killed that mute maid?
moonaeParticipantDid anybody notice how Neal said “every night, for more years than you could know” in his speech to Rumple? Seems like he’s been around for a while… good news?
moonaeParticipantJust a thought on the whole “the bean was supposed to take him to a land without magic”-thing, is it possible that he actually did come here first, and then, since he’s pretty much a lost boy (orphan in a strange land), went on to Neverland afterwards? He only needed to stay here a short while.
And as i’m writing this I also realized that maybe that has something to do with his coming back here every now and then, wondering if his dad somehow got through anyway… at least at first, later it might have just become habit… though maybe not…
moonaeParticipant@Phee wrote:
Kathryn served her purpose, though it would have been nice to have seen her and Frederick meet up again in SB. If memory serves, there was a spoiler at some point that his SB counterpart was gonna be in an ep, I’m wanting to say he was the school’s gym teacher? But I guess it ended up on the cutting room floor, which is a shame because it would have wrapped her storyline up properly.
He did appear in the same episode that she went missing in, for like 3 seconds…
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